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This message was authored by jonny221 This message was authored by: jonny221

Re: QS025 Lip Sync Issues

@Daniel-FCan we assume that Sky found the root cause of the problem and the improvement is a fix, rather than it may improve the issue for some people?

 

 

 

This message was authored by Zen14 This message was authored by: Zen14

Re: Lip Sync issues - Sky Stream

As a brand new customer who is trying Sky Stream for the first time today the lip sync issue is a big disappointment..... just spent 2 hours trying to solve it and still haven't been able to properly.

Hopefully a fix will come soon.

A discount on the monthly subscription wouldn't be amiss until it does get sorted please!!.

 

This message was authored by Mister_Dalek This message was authored by: Mister_Dalek

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@jonny221 wrote:

@Daniel-FCan we assume that Sky found the root cause of the problem and the improvement is a fix, rather than it may improve the issue for some people?

 


Indeed. We need a solution, not an "improvement".  

This message was authored by Fothergill1 This message was authored by: Fothergill1

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@Zen14  I know it is only a temporary solution but have you tried the advice given by Sky and countless other posts on the forum to change your audio settings to PCM or passthrough whilst the find a permanent solution?

 

In my specific case when I got the lip sync I changed my audio from Auto to Dolby Digital Plus and that seemed to work.  When I received the latest update (QS028) it resolved the issue completely and I have not had it again.  I appreciate this is not the case for many subscribers but Sky are working to find a permanent solution.

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This message was authored by Zen14 This message was authored by: Zen14

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Thread title created to reflect current issue

 

Moderator note: Amended title to better reflect query


Yes I've tried all the various options and none of them quite work properly.

To be honest if I'd had known about this issue beforehand I wouldn't have subscribed because my normal setup works perfectly from a lip sync point of view.

Hopefully this will get sorted soon.

Picture quality and actual sound quality I have no complaints about at all.

 

 

 

This message was authored by koopie This message was authored by: koopie

Re: Lip Sync issues - Sky Stream

On SkyQ the solution was to get audio via an optical cable from the SkyQ box to the soundbar. The HDMI cable was connected to any of the tv inputs. It didn't have to be e-arc. You can get Dolby Digital but not Dolby Atmos with this solution. 
I like the idea of the puck but it doesn't have an optical connection so this forces you down the HDMI/e-arc route and consequently syncing problems.

This message was authored by Zen14 This message was authored by: Zen14

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Yes I hear what you're saying but my current TV setup is HDMI based and there's no sync problems....with this Sky Stream and the puck there seems to be a more general issue that needs addressing by Sky.

It's not just me complaining.

 

Having a sync adjustment with wider parameters might do the trick as would the ability to watch a channel whilst actually making the sync delay/advance changes.

This message was authored by FunkyL This message was authored by: FunkyL

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Syncing problems are only a few months old.  Before that there were no issues even with HDMI.  It does not follow at all (as you imply) that HDMI = sync issues.  This is likely a software thing (hence the frustration from paying customers that Sky are still charging full whack for a service they are not delivering while apparently sitting on the issue)

This message was authored by koopie This message was authored by: koopie

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The sync issue may be new on the pick but it's been around for years especially since the introduction of arc. Search for sync issues with SkyQ and you'll see zillions of complaints. Basically Sky say there is no problem with SlyQ and it's for the tv makers to fix it. Unsurprisingly the tv makers see it the other way.

This message was authored by MrsRooney This message was authored by: MrsRooney

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In which case the voice sync issue would also affect Apple TV, Fire TV and Virgin, which from other posts on here is clearly not the case. And remember, the issues here are not just voice sync, but also the periodic and momentary loss of audio signal which is just as annoying.

 

I am not convinced that this is solely a software issue - my suspicion is that the problem lies with the ability of the puck to reliably send both hdr video and Dolby sound simultaneously via hdmi without running into capacity limitations. I certainly don't see this as a tv problem - it doesn't appear to be either manufacturer or model related at all. And since it is also evident via both ARC and eARC, I doubt that it is related to implementation of either standard.

Interestingly I never experienced either audio sync or dropout issues with Sky Q which worked flawlessly for me. But then I suspect there are inconsistencies introduced by varying consumer setups which just add to the mystery! Part of the problem for Sky is that their hardware/software solutions need to be able to cope with the differences in subscriber hardware and set ups. But if Apple etc can do it, why can't Sky? And since the software is hardly unique, my suspicions are that this is a puck hardware issue.

 

 

This message was authored by Littletaffia This message was authored by: Littletaffia

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@koopie I'm afraid your wrong about ARC. HDMI ARC is capable of passing Dolby Digital Plus and any associated Atmos metadata. Optical is limited to 5.1 Dolby Digital. Both these formats are lossy SD audio. You need eARC is to be able to pass full lossless HD audio and any Atmos metadata attached. No streaming service is currently capable of lossless HD audio which is the preserve of discs.

This message was authored by Mister_Dalek This message was authored by: Mister_Dalek

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@Littletaffia wrote:

@koopie I'm afraid your wrong about ARC. HDMI ARC is capable of passing Dolby Digital Plus and any associated Atmos metadata. Optical is limited to 5.1 Dolby Digital. Both these formats are lossy SD audio. You need eARC is to be able to pass full lossless HD audio and any Atmos metadata attached. No streaming service is currently capable of lossless HD audio which is the preserve of discs.


Not strictly true. There is one non-disc service which offers lossless audio & higher video bit-rates than streaming...
https://www.kaleidescape.com/ 

It's very, very good... and very expensive. 

This message was authored by JohnnieMac1 This message was authored by: JohnnieMac1

Re: QS025 Lip Sync Issues

Have just loaded my Sky Stream for the first time ( July 23rd 24) Have lip sync issues - can anyone help please????

This message was authored by Deedee36 This message was authored by: Deedee36

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@JohnnieMac1  If you read through this thread you will see that this is an issues that sky are currently working on,in the meantime the advice is to set your sound output to pcm

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This message was authored by Fothergill1 This message was authored by: Fothergill1

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@JohnnieMac1 This is a very long thread but a short precis is that SKy are aware of the issue and have been working to find a permanent solution for a couple of months.  They recommend as a temporary solution that yiou cnage tour audio settings to PCM or Passthrough (in my case I found that Dolby Digital plus worked for me).

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