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Discussion topic: Will there be a Sky Glass 2?

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@neillondragan wrote:

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I was thinking a recording facility in the cloud and not a hard drive,  if that's possible in this age of technology??


A proper Cloud DVR would be a very welcome addition to Entertainment OS on both Glass and Stream, not the somewhat random 'sometimes it cloud records, sometimes it doesn't' type thing we get at the moment. 

Cloud DVR services have been used predominantly in the USA for years and work much more like the Sky Q planner in that the customer has control over what is recorded to their cloud drive and can delete individual files from it. Presently, Sky Glass/Stream customers only have the ability to add & remove programme/movie/sport titles from a playlist, not unique individually cloud recorded programmes stored on a customer-specific server.

Cloud DVRs are usually chargeable services though, and can often be quite expensive. Some DVR services offer a small amount of free storage space, others charge quite a bit for unlimited storage. Some have a 30 day limit on how long recordings can be stored. Some don't allow recording from certain channels. There are a lot of variables basically. 

If Sky had a deal with UK broadcasters which allowed true cloud recording and playback from an individual cloud storage area which customers could add and delete from, then it would really set the service apart from anything else in the UK.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but sadly I don't see it happening any time soon.   

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The BBC will never allow cloud recording on any external platforms. 

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Sky glass 2

I phoned  sky today, & spoke  to a very nice man, who said that there is going to be a sky glass  2  coming  out this year, and that we should  be able  to exchange  the old tv like we can do our sky mobile  phones, next Sunday according  to items I have  seen lately  on the Internet  sky is making  an announcement  about something  big and better  next Sunday 

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@peter-marlow+1966  This has already been discussed at great length within this thread your new post has been merged to.

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@peter-marlow+1966 wrote:

and that we should  be able  to exchange  the old tv like we can do our sky mobile  phones


That's extremely unlikely: as mentioned numerous times in this forum, the 'Swap' plan announced at the Glass launch event more than three years ago appears to be entirely impractical and is completely absent from the contract terms.  For a start, the same system for mobile phones relies on new models appearing annually, the hardware being traded-in having some residual value, and of course phones don't need a Luton van booked to collect them.

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We only had Sky Glass as that time you could only have the pucks with a sky glass TV contract and we were no longer able to receive a strong enough signal for SkyQ. Soon after we had glass they made it that you could have stream as a standalone product!

 

Why would anyone  want Sky Glass 2? You can buy a good spec Samsung TV for the same price and plug it into a puck!

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@Winston+Brown wrote:

Why would anyone  want Sky Glass 2? You can buy a good spec Samsung TV for the same price and plug it into a puck!


I guess it all depends on what the hardware specs of a potential Sky Glass 2 may look like ( and of course what price point they chose).

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@Winston+Brown wrote:

We only had Sky Glass as that time you could only have the pucks with a sky glass TV contract and we were no longer able to receive a strong enough signal for SkyQ. Soon after we had glass they made it that you could have stream as a standalone product!

 

Why would anyone  want Sky Glass 2? You can buy a good spec Samsung TV for the same price and plug it into a puck!


We don't yet know either the price or spec of a Glass 2 if there is one. 

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@Mark39 wrote:

@Winston+Brown wrote:

We only had Sky Glass as that time you could only have the pucks with a sky glass TV contract and we were no longer able to receive a strong enough signal for SkyQ. Soon after we had glass they made it that you could have stream as a standalone product!

 

Why would anyone  want Sky Glass 2? You can buy a good spec Samsung TV for the same price and plug it into a puck!


We don't yet know either the price or spec of a Glass 2 if there is one. 


There is one.

The cost needs to be cheaper. Glass is already hideously over-priced and I'm frankly amazed that Sky are continuing to sell them at pretty much full price, this close to the launch of gen2. In Australia they have halved the price of their identical gen1 Hubbl Glass TVs, and some stores are selling them for even less. A 55" Glass costs about £300 at the current exchange rate and a 65" is about £375. If Sky were to reduce the cost of their gen1 Glass TVs to those levels, they'd clear the warehouses pretty darn quickly.  

 

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@Ellie_TV I agree the current offers on Glass are not particularly enticing but if you look as this LINK you will see that a lot of stock is already sold out.  This would tend to support the speculation of a Glass 2 on the horizon.  Who knows but if one is released then possibly the remaining stock of original Glass TV will be slashed.

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@Ellie_TV wrote:
 In Australia they have halved the price of their identical gen1 Hubbl Glass TVs, and some stores are selling them for even less. A 55" Glass costs about £300 at the current exchange rate and a 65" is about £375. If Sky were to reduce the cost of their gen1 Glass TVs to those levels, they'd clear the warehouses pretty darn quickly.  

Just to point out that Hubbl is a Foxtel product and so pricing of the television hardware in Australia is nothing to do with either Sky Group or Comcast as long as the latter gets its licencing fee for the software platform.

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@Ellie_TV wrote:
 In Australia they have halved the price of their identical gen1 Hubbl Glass TVs, and some stores are selling them for even less. A 55" Glass costs about £300 at the current exchange rate and a 65" is about £375. If Sky were to reduce the cost of their gen1 Glass TVs to those levels, they'd clear the warehouses pretty darn quickly.  

Just to point out that Hubbl is a Foxtel product and so pricing of the television hardware in Australia is nothing to do with either Sky Group or Comcast as long as the latter gets its licencing fee for the software platform.


Yes, but it's a phenomenal pricing discrepancy for an identical product built to identical specification, running an almost identical version of Entertainment OS.  

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@Ellie_TV wrote:

@TimmyBGood wrote:

@Ellie_TV wrote:
 In Australia they have halved the price of their identical gen1 Hubbl Glass TVs, and some stores are selling them for even less. A 55" Glass costs about £300 at the current exchange rate and a 65" is about £375. If Sky were to reduce the cost of their gen1 Glass TVs to those levels, they'd clear the warehouses pretty darn quickly.  

Just to point out that Hubbl is a Foxtel product and so pricing of the television hardware in Australia is nothing to do with either Sky Group or Comcast as long as the latter gets its licencing fee for the software platform.


Yes, but it's a phenomenal pricing discrepancy for an identical product built to identical specification, running an almost identical version of Entertainment OS.  


Pricing always come down to what consumers are willing to pay .......

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This message was authored by Winston+Brown This message was authored by: Winston+Brown

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Decided to abandon the glass tv. Got a Samsung Q80D arriving tomorrow and a spare puck.

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I know those who know can't give away any detail, but is anyone able to say when this launch/press briefing is in Feb?

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