Will there be a Sky Glass 2?

[seandrews]

Any chance Sky release a version of Sky Glass work buying 

proper TV specs 

at the moment a Roku 4KTV with the Now App does a better job at half the price. 

[Gincap]

Sky claim their mid range glass TV is the biggest UK selling TV, so it beggars belief that they haven't at least given some rumblings of a Glass 2. If glass continues then there has to be an evolution of the product for sure but for now who knows!!!

[Jones_The_Cat]

The fact that people are still buying Sky Glass in its current 2+ year old form at the exorbitant price Sky charges, shows that the British public in general don't hold quality in too high a regard when it comes to how they view their TV. 

Sky Glass is a functional, easy to use, mass-produced 'Entertainment platform' (Sky's words) and is allegedly 'smarter than a smart TV' (also Sky's words).

Most customers prefer convenience to quality and that's how Sky make their money. Customers will pay over the odds for a not very good TV because it's 'the only TV with Sky inside'. This is appealing to a huge majority of the population who don't give two hoots about nit levels, OLED, frame rate matching, HDR10+, Dolby Vision IQ, or any that stuff. They just want something that's easy to use with minimal faff.

Sky can mass-produce Glass relatively cheaply, yet can charge a premium for it because loyal customers will pay it. 

Those that aren't loyal to Sky and care more about quality and versatility, can buy a proper smart TV elsewhere and add a Stream puck to it if they wish. 

There probably will be a Glass V2. Later this year maybe. Will I be buying it? Absolutely not. 

Sky are mass market. Their hardware products are mass-produced to a budget in order to maximise profits. They won't offer 'proper TV specs' because that's not the market they're in. 

[Jporch316]

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@Jones_The_Cat wrote:

The fact that people are still buying Sky Glass in its current 2+ year old form at the exorbitant price Sky charges, shows that the British public in general don't hold quality in too high a regard when it comes to how they view their TV. 

Sky Glass is a functional, easy to use, mass-produced 'Entertainment platform' (Sky's words) and is allegedly 'smarter than a smart TV' (also Sky's words).

Most customers prefer convenience to quality and that's how Sky make their money. Customers will pay over the odds for a not very good TV because it's 'the only TV with Sky inside'. This is appealing to a huge majority of the population who don't give two hoots about nit levels, OLED, frame rate matching, HDR10+, Dolby Vision IQ, or any that stuff. They just want something that's easy to use with minimal faff.

Sky can mass-produce Glass relatively cheaply, yet can charge a premium for it because loyal customers will pay it. 

Those that aren't loyal to Sky and care more about quality and versatility, can buy a proper smart TV elsewhere and add a Stream puck to it if they wish. 

There probably will be a Glass V2. Later this year maybe. Will I be buying it? Absolutely not. 

Sky are mass market. Their hardware products are mass-produced to a budget in order to maximise profits. They won't offer 'proper TV specs' because that's not the market they're in. 

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I quite like mine .....

[TimmyBGood]

@Jones_The_Cat 

I do wonder what Glass might have been without the pandemic: TP Vision is clearly capable of better, given they also produce everything which has a Philips badge.

As I've said several times over the past couple of years, I really wish Sky could have taken the subscription and used part of that to subsidise the first really mass market OLED: that with the speaker set might actually have been 'something magical'.

https://www.akqa.com/work/sky/made-of-magic/ 

[Jones_The_Cat]

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@Jporch316 wrote:

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@Jones_The_Cat wrote:

The fact that people are still buying Sky Glass in its current 2+ year old form at the exorbitant price Sky charges, shows that the British public in general don't hold quality in too high a regard when it comes to how they view their TV. 

Sky Glass is a functional, easy to use, mass-produced 'Entertainment platform' (Sky's words) and is allegedly 'smarter than a smart TV' (also Sky's words).

Most customers prefer convenience to quality and that's how Sky make their money. Customers will pay over the odds for a not very good TV because it's 'the only TV with Sky inside'. This is appealing to a huge majority of the population who don't give two hoots about nit levels, OLED, frame rate matching, HDR10+, Dolby Vision IQ, or any that stuff. They just want something that's easy to use with minimal faff.

Sky can mass-produce Glass relatively cheaply, yet can charge a premium for it because loyal customers will pay it. 

Those that aren't loyal to Sky and care more about quality and versatility, can buy a proper smart TV elsewhere and add a Stream puck to it if they wish. 

There probably will be a Glass V2. Later this year maybe. Will I be buying it? Absolutely not. 

Sky are mass market. Their hardware products are mass-produced to a budget in order to maximise profits. They won't offer 'proper TV specs' because that's not the market they're in. 

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I quite like mine .....

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Nowt wrong with that. If I had a car and lived near you I'd still come round and give you a tenner for that 43 incher... 😉

[Jones_The_Cat]

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@Jones_The_Cat 

I do wonder what Glass could have been without the pandemic: TP Vision is clearly capable of better, given they also produce everything which has a Philips badge.

As I've said several times over the past couple of years, I really wish Sky could have taken the subscription and used part of that to subsidise the first really mass market OLED: that with the speaker set might actually have been 'something magical'.

https://www.akqa.com/work/sky/made-of-magic/ 

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I really don't think they'd be able to make the profit margins work with OLED. It would have to be a lot more expensive and would be much harder to make in large quantities. It would need to be marketed as a Glass Pro or something like that so that it appeals to a more niche audience. 

I'd still pass on it though. I much prefer my TV to be more of a monitor to which I can attach things I want to attach and run an OS I have more control over.

[Fothergill1]

@Jones_The_Cat I upgraded to a 65" Samsung OLED and Soundbar at the end of November and don't regret it for a moment.  The picture quality with an OLED ad Stream puck is outstanding.

It did cost a little more than a 65" glass but not by much as I purchased them on Black Friday deals and due to my location we don't pay 5% GST and not 20% VAT so that's another 15% saving.

[mikealanr]

Let's not forget in the original launch event Sky said Glass was going to have an upgrade path where they buy it back and upgrade you, similar to Sky mobile and phone contracts.

But that was the first and only mention of such a scheme!

MikeAlanR

[Jporch316]

The built in sound is a deal breaker for me .... let s hope they retain it in glass 2 

[trevforum]

I'd never consider a Glass TV as a main TV.  I changed from Sky Q to Stream/Glass as it was the only way to get the same deal I was on.  I bought outright a 43" Glass for the conservatory, with a Sky Stream puck for my main TV (a 2016 Panasonic DX902 Full Array Local Dimming TV).  My Broadband is BT Halo 3+ FTTC with 45Mbs sustained download speed.

The Panasonic DX902 achieves the sweet spot of 1000+nits for HLG/HDR10(No DV).  Only the newest OLEDS come close. 

[Fothergill1]

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@Jporch316 wrote:

The built in sound is a deal breaker for me .... let s hope they retain it in glass 2 

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@Jporch316 Without doubt the sound on the Glass TV was excellent and by far the best of any built in TV sound I have ever heard. 

[Gincap]

Glass is an option in a secondary room but again there are far better options available and use a puck. The TV is pretty well built, solid but quality hmmmm. 

Having changed whole heartedly to Apple I purchased two HomePods really good quality. Plus spacial audio through iPods pro puts you right in the middle of the experience. 

as a side any Apple users alongside Stream noticed the vast improvement in iPlayer output quality this past week?  Content with the upscaling really has a 4K feel. 

[Nigelb1972]

@Fothergill1 we've got a Samsung 55" QLED hooked up to an Atmos soundbar and Sky Stream with the UHD bolt on and the picture and sound quality that little puck kicks out to the right kit is mine blowing at times... 

[mallyo]

How much would this setup cost?   My contract has expired and I'm looking at options.