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Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 10:36 AM
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Full fibre upgrade worse than before
I upgraded to full fibre yesterday, but now an app I regularly use freezes, skips and has lots of interference. The broadband / WiFi test comes back as speeds ok. Any advice?
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Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 10:53 AM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
@Se4 while full fibre should improve both speed and stability to the hub it does nothing to improve wifi speeds in your home. Indeed they can get worse if the hub has been moved. Check if the hub is in the best position which is out in the open on a surface above obstructions like radiators if the cable Sky supplied is too short then you can use a longer ethernet cable from the ONT to the hub.
65inch Sky Glass, 3 Sky Streaming Pucks, Sky Ultrafast + and Sky SR213(white Wifi Max hub) main Wifi from 3 TP-Link Deco M4 units in access point mode
Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 12:01 PM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
Thanks the hub is in the same place as before, it's at the back of a bookshelf but I had no issues before I upgraded. It's slightly annoying as if anything upgrading had made my experience worse as the only difference I've noticed is the poor wi fi. I'll see if I can move the router
Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 12:51 PM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
Which hub do you have,? I have sky gigafast broadband 900mps and the sky wifi max hub, i have had them both since January last year and had no problems with it, i have a 55inch sky glass tv gen 1, a 55inch sky glass tv gen 2, 43inch lg tv , sky puck, Xbox, p c, 2 laptops, a tablet, 3 mobile phones, a freesat box and 3 alexers all connected to the Internet and when family visit i can have up to 7 mobiles connected to the Internet no problems what so ever
Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 08:59 PM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
It's the standard router but sky and the engineers said that should be fine for full fibre.
Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 09:57 PM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
No you need the sky wifi max hub for full fibre, it even show it on the sky website with that hub to get the best out of the full fibre broadband
Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 09:59 PM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
I have the same issue, everything in place of my old stuff which was working great, now WiFi max with the white hub and signal and connection around the home has got way worse
Message posted on 05 Apr 2025 11:07 PM
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Message posted on 06 Apr 2025 07:16 AM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
Do you have, or have you asked for a booster pod to go with the hub ? If it's an old build house the walls are solid and not like modern houses walls, this could be part of your problem, if you house was built before the second world war then the solid brick interior walls will block or slow the wifi signal the booster pods just plug in to a socket, i would get sky a ring and ask for some, hope this helps
Message posted on 06 Apr 2025 07:18 AM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
As explained in previous posts... the speed to the hub and the WiFi signal from the hub are 2 separate issues.
Sky can provide equipment for improving the WiFi signal around your home or you might invest money & time in setting up your own mesh system.
Been well worth the effort and expense for me as we often work from home (Zoom & Teams meetings) plus we have Ring security cameras, smart plugs, smart bulbs, streaming cameras, electric blinds etc.
1000/115 FTTP (Aquiss) to Zyxel DX3301
3 x Asus XT9s + 2 x RT-AC58U V3 for WiFi (AP mode)
65" Samsung S92C OLED TV
C430 Samsung soundbar with subwoofer
6 other streaming TVs
43+ network connected devices
Message posted on 06 Apr 2025 07:35 AM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
There are several reasons why the wifi coverage from the new white Sky Max hub maybe worse.
First if you have Sky Q boxes these no longer act as WiFi hotspots for your devices - something Sky dont point out. The older Sky boisters are also not compatable instead you need the pod extendrrs Sky can provide as part of the WiFi Max package if asked
Secondly as I mentioned in my first post the location of the ONT can mean the hub is not in its best position especially in new builds with "comms cupbaords" which is about the worst possible place. The hub connects to the ONT using an Ethernet lead you can buy these in any length you need. Cat5e is ample as it supports 1Gb/s up to 100m
Thirdly the new hub uses the 5GHz band to communicate with its extender pods which has higerr attenuation when passing through solid obstructions than the 2.4GHz band which can be a factor especially if you live in an older property.
Outside those restrictions tge white hub has very similat range tomthe older black hubs which are the same shape.
65inch Sky Glass, 3 Sky Streaming Pucks, Sky Ultrafast + and Sky SR213(white Wifi Max hub) main Wifi from 3 TP-Link Deco M4 units in access point mode
Message posted on 06 Apr 2025 09:48 AM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
Yes new build i have and a stupid comms cupboard all behind a thick wall. Right at the bottom of my stairs by a front door hardly anywhere to pop the wifi hub safely I've had to bring the WiFi box out of the cupboard I've ordered a long ethernet cable and I've a extention lead. I'll have to get a little unit to pop it on.
Message posted on 06 Apr 2025 11:02 AM
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The house is about 25 years old so not thick walls, I've contacted sky to see what they can do as tbh I had perfectly good broadband for all needs before, including working from home, and it's disappointing if I have to buy any further kit to boost as that wasn't needed before and the whole thing feels less reliable than before. Every day apps I regularly used on my phone, and even things like bbc I player on the tv are not avaliable.
Message posted on 06 Apr 2025 11:28 AM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
@Raving51 I'm in a 12 year old house with the ONT in the hallway... not the best position for us but not in a cubboard thankfully. My partner and I tried to get creative and so the hub is hidden behind and at the bottom of this shoe storage with just the XT9 on top to communicate via WiFi with the other nodes. Works perfectly and fast.
@Se4 I hear you about having to purchase further equipment when the previous system worked OK. Maybe think of it in t this way- a DIY mesh system (particularly in AP mode) can work with any broadband provider (if and when you decide to change). Also your mesh system can be designed to be much better than anything that ISPs such as Sky can supply. Finally, depending on the equipment you purchase, you can have greater flexibility, control and tinkering of the network as suits your needs.
1000/115 FTTP (Aquiss) to Zyxel DX3301
3 x Asus XT9s + 2 x RT-AC58U V3 for WiFi (AP mode)
65" Samsung S92C OLED TV
C430 Samsung soundbar with subwoofer
6 other streaming TVs
43+ network connected devices
Message posted on 06 Apr 2025 11:37 AM
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Re: Full fibre upgrade worse than before
I'll have a look into the having a mesh system I'm on three floors 3 xbox on top floor one on the middle floor one lower floor plus 6 tvs, door bell, few cameras everyone's phones and what ever else it's a nightmare that I need to improve asap
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