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This message was authored by: fozbo

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My reply:

 

I don't understand what you mean.

You mention deleting wrong series episode details.How do I know which ones are wrong. What happens when they record again on Series link? Or are you saying I cannot record any more? 
That is the purpose of it surely & thecreason I have this item.
 
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I am sorry to read that you are experiencing problems with this and also please accept my apologies for our previous reply.

 

In order for us to investigate this for you, please provide us with some further information:

 

Could you please give us some examples of the programmes you are recording that are not stacking?

 

So I took pics of the screen showing issue and then I get this response from different person

 

I am sorry to read that you are finding the way that ITV are broadcasting and presenting these shows frustrating.

 

Ultimately, it is not that Sky are not interested in this or that we want people to move to Sky Glass. We know full well that Sky Glass is not for everyone. The fact is that Sky do not own or operate ITV and have 0 control over the content they make available.

 

As an open platform, Sky must provide a channel number and On Demand space for any broadcaster that has an active UK broadcast licence with Ofcom and wants to be on our platform. The content that is made available by those broadcasters, including but no limited to the inclusion of Series Links and synopsis information or thumbnails used, is not controlled by Sky.

 

While we cannot correct the issue you are reporting as Sky do not have the ability to alter this information from 3rd party broadcasters, we will pass on your comments to the broadcaster in hopes that they will make these changes going forward.

 

Thanks again for taking the time to contact Sky.

 

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@fozbo wrote:

I have emailed sky. 

This is the 1st response

 

In order to rectify the issue, I request you to permanently delete any programmes with the wrong Series / Episode details, as, the stacking issues will still continue to happen for that particular set of recordings.

 

I wish to inform you that, our engineers are working tirelessly to resolve this issue at the earliest.

 

I appreciate your patience and understanding in this matter.


This message was authored by: Paula+R

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So they have gone from 'tirelessley working on the issue' to 'it's not our fault and we aren't doing anything to sort it'?!!

 

Bravo Sky, bravo

This message was authored by: fozbo

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@Paula+R 

Yep as it's not their fault now

apparently!

So all the TV channels must be to blame

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It would be extremely helpful if someone from Sky could explain why not all customers are affected in the same way if it is the broadcasters' issue.  Or are all customers affected?

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@wkeith wrote:

It would be extremely helpful if someone from Sky could explain why not all customers are affected in the same way if it is the broadcasters' issue.  Or are all customers affected?


I am not from SKY & I have no specific info. 

I am not currently affected. although I had the odd mis-stack etc. when the main problem was present a few months ago

 

These are my speculations / observations on this  & are just that.

 

I think it is happeniing  with only some programmes (especially the soaps)  from some channels (i.e. not every programme on those channels) & I think it depends on what other episodes are still on the box when the new ones record.  

 

I do record & keep a few series although probably most I record/watch/delete before the next epsiode.

The ones I tend to keep are mainly on the UKTV channels - Alibi & Drama .(but newer programmes rather than the 'classics' on Drama)  

 

I suspect many customers are like me and just don't record the programmes that are clearly causing problems  for some others. 

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Indeed, yes, maybe there are some reading this who can confirm if they are ok

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Yes it would be useful if anyone can record and keep a couple of weeks worth of soaps without issues.  Use case - going on holiday.    If no one can then it's the broadcasters.  If some can there is an issue with the SKY platform.  If only SKY would be open about it.  

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@wkeith wrote:

Yes it would be useful if anyone can record and keep a couple of weeks worth of soaps without issues.  Use case - going on holiday.    If no one can then it's the broadcasters.  If some can there is an issue with the SKY platform.  If only SKY would be open about it.  


The fact that Sky ask for examples of the issue suggest they can't replicate it so .........

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@wkeith wrote:

Yes it would be useful if anyone can record and keep a couple of weeks worth of soaps without issues.  Use case - going on holiday.    If no one can then it's the broadcasters.  If some can there is an issue with the SKY platform.  If only SKY would be open about it.  


@wkeith i came back from a 2 week break, eastenders was series linked  bbc1 along with richard osmans house of games bbc2

I have occassinally had the non stacking so didnt know if they would stack or not but they were all stacked correctly both eastenders and house of games 


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This message was authored by: BHWood

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Hello Everybody

 

I really feel for all those of you still struggling to get proper stacking and thumb nails on Sky Q, so frustrating not being able to just sit down with a cuppa or a glass of something nice and watch a programme without searching and searching for the next episode.  It would be a great relief for all of us to once again receive a service that we pay a lot of money for and that works as it used to until about a year ago.  Sky really aren't owning and resolving the problem which must surely be some kind of breach of contract? They have been given enough expamples of the issue on this thread surely! The least they could do is co-ordingate a single HONEST response to everyone that reports this issue to them. Our scepticism is enhanced with every differing answer various sky employees give.

 

Point one. We have experienced the same issues as everyone else in the past, but not to the same extent. It currently seems to be mostly resolved even though occasionally it does still happen. In our case it's not to particular channels or particular programmes, but across the board and totally random as to when it happens. That's not helpful for Sky I guess as 'random' is hard to trace. The recent response above from Sky about ITV being to blame is total rubbish, how dare they!! It's clear it's also other channels INCLUDING SKY's!! For the latest comments and requests for feedback on here, we do not record soaps like Eastenders or Corrie.

 

Point two. Something that I'm sure helped with our non stacking and blank thumb nails that doesn't get mentioned much nor do I see many clarifications in the instructions for trying to resolve. We all delete a programme when we've watched it. What many people may not know is that that a deleted programme doesn't disappear off your Q box at that point. It goes into a deleted folder under MANAGE and remains on the box.

 

A very big note here before you go any further! I don't want anyone to lose something really close to their heart and blame me for the loss. Take in what comes next and decide if it's for you before going ahead. This process will only work if you PERMANENTLY DELETE ALL THE PROGRAMMES in the series that have recorded out of stacks or don't have thumb nails, so this might be a non starter for some who have lots and lots of programmes of a series that can't be re-downloaded or re-recorded again. If you are in this position, I'm afriad it will continue to happen. However, sacrificing a series with a small number of recordings as an experiment might lead you to resolving the issue for that programme. It's tedious and takes a bit of time and patience, but here is what you need to do next. BEFORE deleting a non-stacking programme make a note of the series number(s), episode number(s) & channel it was on, what date and time you recorded it. Then take the series links off. Then delete ALL recordings of the series, even unwatched ones. The next step is the secret to resolving the issue. Go to RECORDINGS, MANAGE, DELETED then select each individual programme one at a time and select DELETE FOREVER.  You need to go all the way down the list to permanently delete any previously deleted programmes from the series, not only the ones you've just done. Once you have permanently deleted ALL the affected programmes from the series go back to set up a new series recording or download it. Once this is done, check if they stack and have a thumbnail.

 

Did you try it? Did it work? I do hope I have been of help to some of you.

 

 

 

 

 

This message was authored by: fozbo

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Thank you for this advice  @BHWood. I will certainly try it.

Can I ask though could we watch the episodes that need deleting and not been watched first before deleting ....?

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@fozbo wrote:

Thank you for this advice  @BHWood. I will certainly try it.

Can I ask though could we watch the episodes that need deleting and not been watched first before deleting ....?


Yes of course @fozbo, absolutely your choice to watch then permenently delete or delete without watching and re-record. My main thought was that as people have so many programmes in a muddle it might be worth permanently deleting a series then re-recording/downloading so they are in a logical stack, thus less long term stress more tv enjoyment. I hope it works for you.

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Emmerdale has now changed name to news at 7 but it should say  emmerdale 

issue on sky go and sky Q and emmerdale not showing via search and on this week on sky go and all scheduled episodes of this morning all have blank thumbnails thanks

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This message was authored by: sambora71

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Last nights Emmerdale hasn't even bothered stacking at all, it is on its own as a seperate programme. 

So now we have some as Series 52, some as Other & this on its own. 

Come on Sky, this is ridiculous. You've had an unbelievable amount of time to sort this out & it's still not right. It's an absolute joke. 

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@sambora71 wrote:

Last nights Emmerdale hasn't even bothered stacking at all, it is on its own as a seperate programme. 

So now we have some as Series 52, some as Other & this on its own. 

Come on Sky, this is ridiculous. You've had an unbelievable amount of time to sort this out & it's still not right. It's an absolute joke. 


As has been said in the posts above, while you have incorrectly stacked episodes of Emmerdale on your box future episodes won't stack correctly as it's using the incorrect Metadata in the wrongly stacked episodes. 

You need to watch, delete and permanantly delete all episodes of a series before it has a chance to start stacking correctly. 


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