@Chrisee wrote:
@ZyloKai no idea where you got those sales figures from as Sky/Comcast have released no figures as far as I know as they never do so they must be estimates. However I think you are making a false comparison of the success of the two systems as their are factors you are not taking into account.
Sky stopped the sale of new Sky+ systems in 2016 but as yet they have not done the same with Sky Q. However given there are no plans to replace the satellites Sky uses which have only another 4 or 5 years life it is likely they will have to stop sales quite soon Sky Q was a revolutionary product when it was developed around 2014/5 but uses proprietary technology for its networking which is no longer available. Sky have stopped development of Q's operating system beyond maintenance and the team switched to support for the Sky OS which Stream uses which gets updates every month or so. Increasingly apps and features on Stream wont be coming to Q.
Sales of the streaming service depends on the internet connection homes have access to and given the penetration of full fibre connections has increased significantly since 2021 when only around 20% of homes had a connection while now 83% of homes can access "gigabit" broadband* and 7 in 10 homes have access to a full fibre connection that factor will have influenced sales of Stream. While you dont need full fibre to have Sky Stream it certainly help because of its significantly better reliability over partial fibre.
As Q was different to Sky+ so Stream is different from Q so it takes time to adapt to the new way it works. People worry about losing their "recordings" and "control" which in practice is not a significant issue for most people but it takes time for that message to sink in. However the number one issue affecting acceptance is the need to have a good stable home network which people confuse with having a fast service to their router whereas they are in practice different things as you can have 900Mb/s coming into the router and still have lousy wifi in another room which will mean a dreadful video streaming experience. Gradually the penny is dropping thst in many homes you need better kit than the single freebie router your ISP gives you.
I have had three pucks and a Glass TV since soon after launch having previously had Sky Q and Sky+HD and my current service is as if not more reliable as either of the two earlier systems with better picture quality. Their were bugs at the beginning but now these are few and far between.
* see https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/coverage-and-speeds/full-fibre-broadband-reaches-nearl...
@Chrisee
Point 1: Estimates
I clearly mentioned these were estimates:
"In 2020, with Sky Q being in its forth year, in the UK and Ireland, an estimated"
"with Sky Glass in its forth year (UK)/third year (Ireland) and Sky Stream in its third year (UK)/second year (Ireland) an estimated".
Yes, these are calculated estimates of what systems were being used in 2020 and 2025 from the information that is available. I never claimed these were "sales figures".
Point 2: You mentioned Internet:
Let's be clear. OP asked specifically about either Sky Glass or Sky Q, so you're adding additional detail that was not asked. I've put a strike through the unrelated comments in your reply (i.e. broadband/Internet).
Point 3: Sky Q still available to new customers
Yes, it is. But on your browser, go to a new incognito tab and go to sky.com and click on TV. There's no mention of Sky Q. One needs to actually find to get it.
Point 4: Differences in Sky Q and Sky Glass/Stream
There was many differences between Sky+HD and Sky Q that customers needed to get used to that are outlined below. This is no different to Sky Q and Sky Glass/Stream on difference.
Sky+HD/Sky Q Differences (specifically UI):
i. Design & Layout
- Sky+HD: Uses a traditional grid-based EPG with a horizontal menu at the top and a vertical list of channels below. It’s simple but outdated.
- Sky Q: Features a sleek, modern tile-based layout, similar to streaming platforms like Netflix. The menu is positioned on the left side, allowing content previews on the right.
ii. Navigation & Speed
- Sky+HD: Navigation is slower, requiring users to scroll through long lists to find content.
- Sky Q: Faster navigation with fluid scrolling, predictive search, and category-based browsing for easier access to shows and apps.
iii. Personalisation & Recommendations
- Sky+HD: Basic categorisation with limited recommendations.
- Sky Q: AI-driven personalised recommendations based on viewing habits, plus a "Top Picks" section highlighting new and popular content.
iv. Search & Voice Control
- Sky+HD: Standard text-based search with manual typing using arrow keys.
- Sky Q: Voice search via the remote, allowing users to find content faster by saying a title, actor, or genre.
v. On-Demand & Streaming Integration
- Sky+HD: On-demand content is downloaded before watching, and app support is minimal.
- Sky Q: Seamlessly integrates Netflix, Disney+, YouTube, Spotify, and more, allowing direct streaming without downloads.
vi. Recordings & Playback
- Sky+HD: Recordings are stored in a simple list format.
- Sky Q: Offers a visual "Recordings" menu with thumbnails, making it easier to browse saved content.
vii. Multiroom & Device Integration
- Sky+HD: Requires separate boxes with no content sharing.
- Sky Q: Content can be accessed on Sky Q Mini boxes, smartphones, and tablets through the Sky Go app.
Point 5: Bugs and errors:
Even you mentioned there were bugs in the beginning, like with any system, but you failed to mention the major bug last year that I linked to that stopped Sky Glass systems turning on. My point regarding this is that Sky Glass and Sky Stream are still "young" and still might face errors or bugs, that similar bugs have already been squiahed on Sky Q.
My point still stands. Sky Glass and Sky Stream are not established enough to be fully reliable, even though they are reliable for you. And again, they have less channels that Sky Q. When Sky Glass/Stream are virtually the same, i.e., when the same channels, same apps, same subscriptions, etc. then it will be established enough.
Point 6: Picture quality
Were you using a HD TV before you upgraded to Sky Glass? This would be a reason why the picture quality improved. But if you were using a true 4K UHD (not an UHD or HD) TV beforehand, you should'nt have seen any differences, or very little.
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My own thoughts:
Sky have consistently stated that Sky Glass and Sky Stream are not replacements for Sky Q. But, IMHO, they are. They were released 3 and 4 years ago, as a preparation for when satellite becomes obsolete or when Sky decides not to pay SES (the actual satellite owners) to use their satellites anymore. Originally, Sky's contract with SES would have been expired in 2027 but this got pushed to "through 2029". Sky Glass and Sky Stream will eventually replace Sky Q, more than likely in the early to mid 2030s.
I honestly this OP should go with Sky Q for the time being, as, right now, it is a more established system that is less likely to fail.
Please, if you're going to reply, at least read my comment thoroughly, and keep it relevant.
Sky services I use:
- Sky Q in Ireland:
- ︎Sky Signature, Sky Cinema, Sky HD, Paramount+, Discovery+ (Standard)
- Sky Ultrafast Max (Fibre Internet)
- Sky Talk (VoIP)
- Sky Mobile
- Disney+
- Spotify (Premium)
Please treat everyone with respect.
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