Two feeds from new satellite dish?

[0wa1n]

About 2 months ago I had a brand new Sky dish installed. Been with Sky since 2007 and on Sky+. I have decided to upgrade to Q but want an additional feed into our extension as maybe once a month I want to use it to watch a big game. The main day to day will always be the lounge. I am confident Sky will happily upgrade us to Sky Q but want to go about it in a way that doesn't involve Sky wanting to charge for multiroom for the ad hoc moving the box into our extension. Any thoughts / advice please.

[PandJ2020]

The only supported method by Sky is a minibox with multiroom subscription.  (No box moving required)

Sky themselves won't install 2 feeds to 2 separate locations.

The alternative is some sort of HDMI sender/receiver setup (over CAT6 for example) but has to support HDCP and the videomodes you plan to use.

[nigea99]

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@0wa1n wrote:

About 2 months ago I had a brand new Sky dish installed. Been with Sky since 2007 and on Sky+. I have decided to upgrade to Q but want an additional feed into our extension as maybe once a month I want to use it to watch a big game. The main day to day will always be the lounge. I am confident Sky will happily upgrade us to Sky Q but want to go about it in a way that doesn't involve Sky wanting to charge for multiroom for the ad hoc moving the box into our extension. Any thoughts / advice please.

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hi @0wa1n 

The only way SKy would do it is with a Multiroom subscription & and a mini box (note mini boxes only support HD not UHD)

There are possibly a couple of convoluted ways to do it - one would be to run twin extension cables from the main box site and then move the box when needed (and plug the extension cables to the main feed cables)  Regular moving of a main box is not ideal.

Some people have had success with HDMI splitters but might need reseach as I don't think all  work as one would hope (not something I can advise on)

BTW You may, also,  wish to read some notes I have made for people considering switching from SKY +/HD to SKY Q

SKY +/HD to SKY Q 

[0wa1n]

If I did go for SkyQ with multiroom would Sky engineer run the extra cable from the dish to the extension? Would I be able to swap the mini box with the main box as & when?

[nigea99]

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@0wa1n wrote:

If I did go for SkyQ with multiroom would Sky engineer run the extra cable from the dish to the extension? Would I be able to swap the mini box with the main box as & when?

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@0wa1n 

SKy Mini boxes do not connect directly to the dish but connect via wifi or ethernet to the main box - the main box acts as a type of media server.   (as mentioned in my notes I linked to)

(BTW The wideband LNBs used by SKY for SKY Q , also,  only have one pair of outputs)

Thus no the engineers  would not install cables to 2 locations.

[PandJ2020]

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@0wa1n wrote:

If I did go for SkyQ with multiroom would Sky engineer run the extra cable from the dish to the extension? Would I be able to swap the mini box with the main box as & when?

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As above, Q doesn't work like the Sky+ multiroom.  (Which had its own hard disk and planner and feeds)

The main Q box is the only one with a hard disk and the mini shares it and connects wirelessly.  (And shares it's planner - there are no 'profiles')

Have a good read of the 'SKY +/HD to SKY Q ' link.

[0wa1n]

Is Sky Stream improving? That would be the answer but seems way to early to jump. What's your perspective on Stream?

[Laing1]

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@0wa1n wrote:

Is Sky Stream improving? That would be the answer but seems way to early to jump. What's your perspective on Stream?

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@0wa1n I'd have a read of the Glass/Stream forum found in the link below

https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Glass-Stream-Live/bd-p/sky-glass

[0wa1n]

Is that shorthand for "stay clear of Glass & Stream" ? 🙂

[nigea99]

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@0wa1n wrote:

Is that shorthand for "stay clear of Glass & Stream" ? 🙂

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It's not for me for a few reasons but there are many happy SKY Stream customers. including many  that have moved from SKY HD & SKY Q

It is quite different without recordings and the use of Playlists etc. instead 

It does need good reliable broadband 

[Laing1]

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@0wa1n wrote:

Is that shorthand for "stay clear of Glass & Stream" ? 🙂

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@0wa1n no not any shorthand just that you will get a better idea of Sky Stream and what problems there are and where it is currently at in its developement from the people that are using it.

as @nigea99 say there are many who are happy with it and the way it performs 

Like @nigea99 its not for me yet mainly due to the lack of recording and the way playlists work 

[Godfrey]

@0wa1n  You might consider initially allowing Sky to install Sky Q into your main viewing position.

Then, employ a suitably qualified local specialist engineer to divert the two outputs that emerge from the Wideband LNB that the Sky engineer will have installed, through two outdoor wideband DC pass signal splitters which could then feed two additional coaxial cables direct from these Wideband DC pass signal splitters to your extension.

Godfrey.

[0wa1n]

Now we're talking! I am all for proper workarounds 🙂 Will that very attractive solution have an impact on recording on the Sky Q box?

[Godfrey]

@0wa1n   The only limitation will be the nominal additional 3.5 dB loss of the signal splitters would limit the maximum CT63 / WF65 coaxial cable length down from 45 metres to around 38 metres, or if CT100 / WF100 coaxial cable was used the maximum coaxial cable length would be reduced from 75 metres to around 63 metres, in order to restrict the signal attenuation between the Wideband LNB and Sky Q receiver to an absolute maximum of around 22.5 dB.

Godfrey.

[0wa1n]

So the maximum length of cable from the dish to an access point would be <20m. Would it have any impact on stuff like 4K / UHD / Dolby Atmos?