Transferring content from old Sky box prior ro installing Sky Q

[DaRo1]

I am about to switch from my old Sky box to Sky Q.  I have a number of programmes (mainly BBC )with music content, which I don't want to lose. I have purchased a Cam Link device which will accept the HDMI output from the current box, with an output to plug directly into my PC. A hassle, I know, but I want then to record these programmes to my HD so I can watch them in perpetuity. I don't intend to breach Sky copyright, and will only download and record material from terrestrial channels. Can anyone recommend software to record and process this material in my PC?

Thanks

[SKY1992bf]

@DaRo1  Transfer of content from one box to another is not possible and is a breach of contract 

[oldfella]

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@DaRo1 wrote:

I am about to switch from my old Sky box to Sky Q.  I have a number of programmes (mainly BBC )with music content, which I don't want to lose. I have purchased a Cam Link device which will accept the HDMI output from the current box, with an output to plug directly into my PC. A hassle, I know, but I want then to record these programmes to my HD so I can watch them in perpetuity. I don't intend to breach Sky copyright, and will only download and record material from terrestrial channels. Can anyone recommend software to record and process this material in my PC?

Thanks

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Regardless of how you wish to achieve this @DaRo1 

It is against Skys Terms and Conditions.

Certainly not something that can be discussed on a Sky run Forum

[Chodley]

While you could argue that's a fair use exception, sadly copyright law might not agree (is keeping it for as long as you want really "time shifting"?) so I don't think you can be sure you're not breaking it.

Of course if you were to leave that stuff on your PC, I don't think the Beeb's crack team of investigators will track you down any time soon.

[TimmyBGood]

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@DaRo1 wrote:

I have purchased a Cam Link device which will accept the HDMI output from the current box, with an output to plug directly into my PC.

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Support for that brand of device indicates, as expected, it cannot carry HDCP content.

https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=HDCP 

[DaRo1]

Thanks for the replies. I wasn't aware that e.g. BBC content was protected by Sky copyright. In any event, I amd NOT trying to copy to Sky Q but to my PC. I accept a) this connot be discussed on a SKy website and b) that it might not be possible anyway.

One further query: presumably HDMI from a sky box to a tv cannot be encrypted unless the tv has decryption installed, correct? Bt is the output digital or analogue?

[PandJ2020]

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@DaRo1 wrote:

One further query: presumably HDMI from a sky box to a tv cannot be encrypted unless the tv has decryption installed, correct? 

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Yes, it's encrypted with HDCP.  The TV decrypts it before displaying it.

You do not own the content and only have a very limited licence for its use.

[TimmyBGood]

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@DaRo1 wrote:

One further query: presumably HDMI from a sky box to a tv cannot be encrypted unless the tv has decryption installed, correct? Bt is the output digital or analogue?

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HDMI output is digital.  The box, television and any other equipment (soundbar, projector) exchange an HDCP handshake and have to either support the standard or pass it through unchanged.

[DaRo1]

I read somewhere that terrestrian chanels e.g. BBC are unencrypted?

[TimmyBGood]

@DaRo1 

Unencrypted in transmission (i.e. 'free to air')

This is not the same thing as the HDCP chain between Sky box and television set.

I think we're in danger of straying outside the remit of this forum...

[Chodley]

All HDMI signals are digital. HDCP came in about 2006 I think? HDMI can carry traffic that's not encrypted with it, but a Sky box doesn't send any that isn't.

Basically you'll probably have to get the content elsewhere.

[Raider999]

if the content is that important to you then request a composite lnb as you have free view.

You can then use the old SkyHD box as a free view box in addition to your  new SkyQ box - I believe you will need to pay for a new card.

[nigea99]

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@Raider999 wrote:

if the content is that important to you then request a composite lnb as you have free view.

You can then use the old SkyHD box as a free view box in addition to your  new SkyQ box - I believe you will need to pay for a new card.

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@Raider999 My understandning is that the playback (& recording) functionality  ceases on the old SKY HD box once the account is switched to SKY Q so this would not help in this case

[TimmyBGood]

@Raider999 

Freesat, not Freeview.

As @nigea99 indicates, use of the hard drive is a subscription function.  It used to be possible to pay Sky for this where the household was going to the legacy 'Freesat-from-Sky' product, but that's not available in a move to Q

'Freesat-from-Sky' is now Sky TV Essentials on a Q box with app and hard-drive access.