Discussion topic: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
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Message posted on 24 Jul 2023 11:02 AM
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Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
There appears to be an issue with the Sky produced feed (not the world FOM feed). I have noticed over the last few races a lot of what I would describe as "posterisation" on skin surfaces in direct sunlight.
So as per example pictured, Rosberg and Danica Patrick are in the shade, with natural looking skin tones, but Christian Horner (in the sun) has very washed out, flat, pinkish skin particularly face and hand? This is specific to Sky F1, I haven't noticed any issues with the cricket, also broadcast in UHD HDR.
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Message posted on 24 Jul 2023 12:23 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
@SecretBanker wrote:
There appears to be an issue with the Sky produced feed (not the world FOM feed). I have noticed over the last few races a lot of what I would describe as "posterisation" on skin surfaces in direct sunlight.
So as per example pictured, Rosberg and Danica Patrick are in the shade, with natural looking skin tones, but Christian Horner (in the sun) has very washed out, flat, pinkish skin particularly face and hand? This is specific to Sky F1, I haven't noticed any issues with the cricket, also broadcast in UHD HDR.
I think sometimes they have the wrong colour space for the UHD feed & yesterday the images for Christians & Zak's interviews were particularly bad. We have noticed before on the F1 feed
I raised it on FB at the time but missed the reply for more info - it did seem to be OK when they cam back after the 'in pen' interviews so not sure if they did spot it & sort it or something else.
I have had a very quick scan of my recording (to get back to the SKY Help team) & it is possible it was just the one Camera - I notice in some shots the trio of presenters were OK but eveyone in the background had really pink/orange faces.
Message posted on 24 Jul 2023 02:11 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
Thanks for your response. It may be just the one camera, I don't know, but it's certainly just the Sky produced material of the presenters that is affected, as I say the FOM feed is fine.
I find it strange that Sky haven't picked this up, it's quite noticeable. It's only been an issue for the last two or three races, earlier in the year it was fine. I would be very interested to hear from someone at Sky about this?
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Message posted on 24 Jul 2023 03:37 PM - last edited: 24 Jul 2023 03:50 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
Now I have time I will add some images I have taken from the recording of the UHD Chequered Flag feed:
Zak & Fans
Simon with Zak
Zak close up (slightly better but still pink)
Danica with everyone in background
Christian Horner 1
Christian Horner 2
Close up of Christian (Better)
The close up of Christian was better , although not perfect, - it seems slightly tied to the exposure setting on the Camera
Danica didn't seem so bad in the foreground but all those behind her have the nice 'salmon pink' look
Message posted on 24 Jul 2023 04:04 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
Yes, some of those are even worse than the one I posted! It does seem to be exposure related somehow, with the people in direct sunlight being affected.
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Message posted on 01 Sep 2023 02:00 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
It looks to me like the camera they use for the paddock interviews doesn't have hdr, in practice today interviewees wearing white were burnt out, sky burnt out, and still skin issues albeit to a lesser extent. How does this get past the production team?
Message posted on 02 Sep 2023 02:30 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
Really bad again today
Message posted on 28 Oct 2023 11:26 PM
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It's obviously one camera in the paddock that's broken or set up incorrectly. On qualy today at mexico there was an interview with Fred from Ferrari, they were cutting back and forth between two cameras, one was perfect the other was awful
Message posted on 29 Oct 2023 10:00 AM - last edited: 29 Oct 2023 10:00 AM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
@MikeySti wrote:It's obviously one camera in the paddock that's broken or set up incorrectly. On qualy today at mexico there was an interview with Fred from Ferrari, they were cutting back and forth between two cameras, one was perfect the other was awful
I'm not subscribed to F1 this year but did the 2 cameras have very different backdrops affecting the overall exposure? (HDR ought to make this less of an issue of course)
Message posted on 05 Nov 2023 05:12 PM - last edited: 05 Nov 2023 05:13 PM
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@MikeySti wrote:
It's obviously one camera in the paddock that's broken or set up incorrectly. On qualy today at mexico there was an interview with Fred from Ferrari, they were cutting back and forth between two cameras, one was perfect the other was awful
Sorry for the delayed response but I agree that there seems to be a rogue camera that struggles at times giving a very varied experience - all other cameras seem OK
The problem is that once noticed, it tends to stick out for me
Message posted on 05 Nov 2023 08:11 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
It does seem ok now...
Message posted on 05 Nov 2023 08:16 PM
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@cuke wrote:
It does seem ok now...
Not imo the 'Rogue' Camera stands out for me
As I started to write this the trio shots of Simon, Crofty & Karun are quite different to the close ups (Camera usually used for close ups is always OK)
Message posted on 22 Jun 2024 12:08 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
12 months on and this is still an issue with one of the hand held cameras in the pit lane on the UHD feed. Odd that they've still not fixed this. It's like there's a red filter over the lens in bright sunlight
Message posted on 22 Jun 2024 01:10 PM - last edited: 22 Jun 2024 01:13 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
As others have said, as far as I understand it, only on track race action is captured in UHD, everything else is upscaled HD in the pitlane, grid walks etc.
For that reason (and it's Q, so HD multiroom), I record the main race on the UHD channel but the series link I have is on the HD channel.
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Message posted on 26 Oct 2024 02:11 PM
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Re: Sky F1 UHD Picture Quality
Is it me or is this situation getting worse?
Every time anyone is in direct sunlight it would appear they have been smeared in Papaya coloured sunscreen. I really noticed it last week in Austin but last night it was really bad, so much so I thought there was something wrong with
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