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This message was authored by joea2001 This message was authored by: joea2001

What Cable do I need

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Hi I'm looking to move my router to a specific part of my flat but my openreach sockets are in awkward places, I have 2 sockets both with take a BT plug in not a RJ11, I brought a 10 meter BT to RJ11 like the one that came with the sky box pictured but the WiFi did not work with this so I'm wonder would a filter adapter work or not 

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This message was authored by TimmyBGood This message was authored by: TimmyBGood

Re: What Cable do I need

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@joea2001 

 

Is there also a pre-filtered master faceplate at the address?

 

If there is, any internal extension socket won't get a data signal.

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This message was authored by FLC This message was authored by: FLC

Re: What Cable do I need

The cables come in two flavours, straight & crossover. This refers to whether the wires from the BT 431A plug on pins 2 & 5 go to RJ11 pins 2 & 5 or 3 & 4. If you look at both ends of of the original cable through a magnifying glass or heavily zoomed pic, you may be able to see the colours & compare it with what you bought.

 

The easiest way to get what you want is probably to use the original cable together with a standard BT extension cable.

This message was authored by FLC This message was authored by: FLC

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@TimmyBGoodis correct in case you weren't aware of that.

This message was authored by StuXxxxx This message was authored by: StuXxxxx

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@FLC  Modern phones & routers are not polarity sensitive.

 

What TimmyBGood has said is true.  Most domestic extensions are wire to the inside of the faceplate and this puts them on the wrong side of the filter to receive a broadband signal.

This message was authored by FLC This message was authored by: FLC

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@StuXxxxx 

I can't speak for Sky's hardware but have seen plenty of recent examples of "modern" phones exhibiting line cord errors, due to use of the wrong cable.

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Re: What Cable do I need

We must be going backwards then, as only very old phones have this issue.  Mine certainly doesn't, as I made up my own 431 to RJ11 cable accidentally as a cross over and both the router and the DV phone work fine.

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This message was authored by joea2001 This message was authored by: joea2001

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Hi, there is no other socket in the flat all there is is 2 sockets which only take the white BT end to the sky cable no option to attach a photo so would a micro filter work 

This message was authored by StuXxxxx This message was authored by: StuXxxxx

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I take it you’ve tried both sockets?

 

A filter is worth a try but the BT to RJ11 should work.  Despite me saying it’s not polarity sensitive, just check if it is the two centre pins connected on the RJ11.  (Some very old kit used to use the two outer pins but I’ve not seen anything like that for many years).  If you’ve got access to a multi-meter, also check the connections on the new cable.  (It’s not unheard of for a cable to be faulty).

 

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This message was authored by joea2001 This message was authored by: joea2001

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Yeah I've tried both sockets both result in the sky box displaying an orange light on voice and a flashing orange light on internet 

I've looked at the RJ11 end of the cable and it has 4 pins none of which are connected to each other 

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No, you misunderstood me.  Look back at what FLC said about pins 2 and 5 on the BT plug being connected to pins 3 & 4 on the RJ11.  (3 & 4 are the two centre pins).  The pins are numbered as you look at them with the plug lead pointing downward.  Empty places also count, so the RJ11 plug has positions 1 & 6 empty.  2 & 5 are irrelevant even if there are pins and 3 & 4 are the important ones.

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This message was authored by joea2001 This message was authored by: joea2001

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I've tried looking at the cable with my phone but I can't see anything probably just me being stupid, would anybody be able to link a 5m BT extension cable that would work or microfilter that would work please 

This message was authored by FLC This message was authored by: FLC

Re: What Cable do I need

As I said previously, just use a regular BT extension cable along witht the original Sky cable.

 

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