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Discussion topic: Sky hub with wifi 6

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This message was authored by Skull+Treaty This message was authored by: Skull+Treaty

Re: Sky hub with wifi 6

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@Chimpishuk 

 

https://business.sky.com/deals/ 

suggests £45 pcm for 900Mbs, but note it's a longer minimum term than the domestic product, presumably to cover the cost of the 'better' hardware. 

For contrast, our BT Business FTTP 300/30 leased line with a guaranteed 12 hour response is north of £180pcm.


Plus VAT so more like 54 sheets pcm ; )

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Re: Sky hub with wifi 6

@TimmyBGood 

 

Located the following in T&C's:

 

5.6 You undertake and agree:

  • a) to use the Service strictly for business use only;

The problem with that statement is that it's impossible to quantify "business use only" as a Sky Stream customer I use the news channels and in particular Bloomberg and CNN for speculating on commodities etc. Obviously I also use other services delivered by Sky Stream but one could equally argue that these are business use.  

 

I use my current line for remote connectivity to many cloud based services, downloading and uploading large amounts of development data, monitoring and trading Forex and commodities, Beta testing,  Streaming Sky TV, Gaming and Audio.  

 

I don't see any confirmed definition of "business use" 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Sky hub with wifi 6

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@Chimpishuk 

 

Like I said, it's a weird product...

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Re: Sky hub with wifi 6

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@Chimpishuk in my own experience if you present a logical argument politely often Sky can be flexible but no guarantees.

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Re: Sky hub with wifi 6

@Chimpishuk 

 

Would have thought with all the expertise you'd invest in a hardware firewall to connect to ONT with wireless access points. Sky's hardware is pretty basic compared to the firewall setup approach...

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Re: Sky hub with wifi 6

@Chrisee 

 

I hope so!

Sky need to get with the times.  A lot of people are working and running business primarily or running a side gig from home.  So a product with a better router, built in 4G back-up and a static IP is appealing.  Why not build these into a residential product? They can't even recognise that rolling out Gigafast without a router capable of Wifi6 is a dense move. 

 

Most of my traffic is encrypted anyways which would prevent any packet inspection by Sky.  Obviously I can't encrypt Sky Stream though.   

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@Chimpishuk wrote:

They can't even recognise that rolling out Gigafast without a router capable of Wifi6 is a dense move. 


To be fair, BT and most other ISPs are doing the same: a somewhat unexpected global pandemic and related silicon component shortage kind of got in the way of production on the scale (and price point) they require.

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Re: Sky hub with wifi 6

@mae-3 

 

If you read the previous page I did mention using AP's as I have cat6 datapoints around the house.  My old house was over three floors and I used the BT AP's.  The bloke who bought the house asked if I'd leave the switch and patch panel cabled in and the AP's. He didn't have a clue. Which I did for a small fee.  

 

Yes I could use an appropriate third party fw with AP's I suppose. At a considerable cost to me.  

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