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Set MAP-T Disable Profile

I have FTTP going live on the 15th

 

I run various services and servers over my connection including my own VPN server and various other servers

i also have no interest in the fragmentation issues and such due to implementing this

so require it to be disabled which Richard Patterson stated can be requested by end users if they require it

which i do

 

I would like the MAP-T Disable Profile set please

 

Not MAP-T 1:1 or MAPT 8:1

 

Can you apply this to my account before i go live please to minimize my headaches on the 15th

 


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OK its solved i just had an e-mail from the form request i did last night

 

Hi,

We've deactivated MAP-T for you.

 

Kind Regards

Sky Network Team.

 

sorry about the 200 typo's in the last post lol

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Re: Set MAP-T Disable Profile

Here's an image of what i would like set

 

that Richard Patterson talks about at the 2024 Anual IPv6 UK Council Meeting

 

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@Shonk_ wrote:

Can you apply this to my account before i go live please to minimize my headaches on the 15th


@Shonk_ 

We can't apply anything. No idea who Richard Patterson is but just to point out you haven’t contacted Sky by posting here. This is a customer ▶️ customer discussion forum. 


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Im aware how the forum works

 

Joined: Apr 14, 2011

 

I moved away from sky in 2021 because sky where never going to offer g.fast 330

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@Shonk wrote:

Im aware how the forum works

 

Joined: Apr 14, 2011

 

I moved away from sky in 2021 because sky where never going to offer g.fast 330


@Shonk If you are aware of how the forum works then why make the account settings request in your post?  Surely you would have known that not going to happen by posting here. 

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Re: Set MAP-T Disable Profile

maybe because i have read other threads and seen

 

Posted by a sky employee and them sending a chat to said user

and them doing what they require

 

 

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@Shonk_ 

The Escalation process which I think you're referring to has been unavailable since the summer. 


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@Shonk_ @Shonk 

You are also using two user names for some reason. You just needed to stick to the one from 2011. That's why we thought you were new to the forum. 


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Re: Set MAP-T Disable Profile

Im using this account as its tied to my order and current account

 

my old accound isnt tied to my order and such 

i just logged into it for a second to reply to you

 

I filled out the form for VPN users stickied and explain in one of the fields why and what i want done

hopefully they will do it

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@Shonk or @Shonk_ there is a pinned post   at the top of the forum which contains a form which goes to the relevant team. While you request is not strictly the same use case that is your best appproach.

 

However the simplest solution is to use a third party router rather than the Sky Max hub which has many other restrictions as it is heavily locked down. Sky can only use MAP-T where the router tells the authentication server it supports DHCPv6 Option95.


For thise who dont know Rich Patterson is a senior network architect at Sky. 

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Yes i did the form a couple of hours ago

 

I will be using an Asus RT-BE88U as the primary router + GT-AX6000 in AP mode

 

There are a couple of things you have to do though

Option 95 has to not be used on IPv6

Option 60 on IPv4 has to not have MAPT1 in the string

 

Im aware that i can force the issue

which is ofc what i will be doing

 

No form of CG-NAT is ever acceptable to me for my usecase

 

at some point in the future they will stop offering the MAP-T disable profile

so its best to get it applied to my account straight away

 

in the same manner as i had the fastpath profile applied to my account in something like 2008 with easynet before it transfered to sky

as sky didnt offer fastpath to end users even though the option was there and my line synced at the max 20480 1312 or whatever it was

as it was applied to my account i managed to keep it until VDSL2 went live then went G.fast 160 for a couple of years 

realised they where never going to offer G.fast 330 so transfered away

 

I have been on the internet since 1994 and had broadband the day it launched in 1999 in my area

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@Shonk_ according to the information we have been given Sky only apply MAP-T to connections using the Sky Max hub. There was an isdue where some Ubquiti routers starting hitting issues where the routers advertised Option95 but did not in fact support MAP-T which Ubquiti fixed a mear 8 years after the first report. No mention of any other changes.

 

As previously stated it looks like Sky are a poor choice on an ISP for you. I wish you luck with youri insistance of no CG-NAT as most if not all ISPs will be using it within a few yesrs if the internet does not switch to IP6.

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they are not a poor choice for me

the sky backbone is the best out of all major isp's

with the lowest average latency and jitter

 

and they allow you to apply a no MAP-T Profile on request 

and once something is applied to your account sky usually dont remove access

even when they stop offering it

 

you can go watch the Richard talking about it in a november 2024 rundown of sky's implementation

he even says you can contact me directly to get it disabled if required

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sky already have enough ipv4 for all users they but dont it causes issues with leases and having to juggle between

dhcp servers the ranges

 

under 1% of users need MAP-T 1:1 by sky's own statistics

so 99% of users are using MAP-T1:8 so they have 8x the needed ipv4

 

once all users transition to newer sky routers

they have also stated they are not backporting MAP-T to older models

so are always going to offer a standard dual stack

 

they ipv4 spare pool will only get larger as people transition

 

people in my usecase are going to be something like 0.1% 

it makes no difference to sky if i us dual stack or MAP-T 1:1 

so there's no point forcing people onto MAP-T from a dual stack

in my scenario

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OK its solved i just had an e-mail from the form request i did last night

 

Hi,

We've deactivated MAP-T for you.

 

Kind Regards

Sky Network Team.

 

sorry about the 200 typo's in the last post lol

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