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This message was authored by Owen19 This message was authored by: Owen19

Re: PPPOE codes for connection to third party router

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On TP-Link set ISP Profile: New Zealand-UFB

 

This will set Vid to 10.

 

Really Really appreciate your help mate thanks alot and have a good day..

 

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@MikeACFB 

 

Working ?  Some routers work best when you borrow the vlan id from an international isp. 

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This message was authored by Owen19 This message was authored by: Owen19

Re: PPPOE codes for connection to third party router

Anyone based in Ireland using a TP-Link AC1900 Archer C80 Router and had Sky as Internet Provider.

 

Using the below steps will connect your router to the Internet.

 

Internet connection type: PPPoE

Username: anything@skydsl

Password: anything

Secondary connection: None

Special ISP settings (IPTV/VLAN)

ISP Profile: New Zealand-UFB

 

Note: Using ISP Profile: New Zealand-UFB will enable Internet VLAN ID and set it's value to 10.

 

I hope this helps someone & thanks to cookiemonsteruk for his advice helping troubleshoot my issue..

 

 

 

This message was authored by DeMuirs This message was authored by: DeMuirs

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I’m in the UK using Sky on a fibre to the cabinet connection which speed wise is excellent being the same as it has always been when I was with Vodafone, Down Stream :79997Kbps / Up Stream: 18999Kbps. When I was moved from Vodafone my connection would have dropped when they changed me over to Sky however it continued to work with the old Vodafone settings in play E.G. I had an internet connection and I could stream audio and video etc. No idea why. I was using PPPoE on that connection with all of the setings such as user name and password handled by the ASUS RT-AX88U. That is plugged into a Draytek Vigor 130 modem connected to a BT master socket. I can use option 61 here and put the Vigor into bridge mode however when I do I lose access to the Vigors interface so I can’t easily check modem stats etc. Just for fun I did the following. Factory reset the Vigor and didn’t put it into bridge mode and didn’t alter any settings on the Vigor a part from change the admin password. Selected PPPoE on the WAN page of the ASUS RT-AX88U and put the following into the router.

User name:

 

abcdefgh@skydsl

 

Password:

 

1234567890abcdef

 

Waited as it took a few Minutes to negotiate a connection which I could see it doing is it would momentarily try to grab an IP address connect then disconnect. Then it connected and has been rock solid since. Curious to know why this works as it shouldn’t should it? BTW, I am running Merlin firmware on the ASUS RT-AX88U which I would need to do anyway in order to use option 61.

This message was authored by ShaunC85 This message was authored by: ShaunC85

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@mae-3  I've seen you give some good advice on this stuff

 

ive recently upgraded to sky full fibre gigafast. I've replaced the sky hub with an ax3000. I've followed what most people have advised across the community. 

I didn't leave everything uplugged for 30 minutes though. Does this matter? I still see the old router on devices.  I separated the frequencies etc

 

i asked a few people yesterday about speeds etc. I'm only getting around 200mbs download on the Xbox over WiFi and it's around 17ft from the router. 

im not sure what I'm doing with port forwarding. Does it matter? The Xbox says it's in port 3074 that was on the old router.

This message was authored by Daniel82 This message was authored by: Daniel82

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Use wired connectection for u Xbox i had sam issue over WiFi with my ps5 i have 500mb over WiFi was only 200

This message was authored by mae-3 This message was authored by: mae-3

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@ShaunC85 

 

With only 17ft away from the wireless router I'd expect a higher speed than you are getting on a Sky full-fibre 500Mbps connection, my own gives the full fibre speed of about 900Mbps subtracting about 5-10% but I am using a MacBook Pro M3 on the 6Ghz band for gaming, on 5Ghz wireless band I get about 650Mbps throughput only, unfortunately, which is all the Xbox supports but I have my Xbox Series X wired in the majority.

 

The 17ft is fine if there are no walls in the way for obtaining about a speed of 400Mbps in my experience on 5Ghz. Don't run 160Mhz wide run 80Mhz wide which is all the Xbox supports. And keep away from channel 36 as everyone uses this channel. Try the DFS channels 100 upwards when the area doesn't suffer from radar interference, don't use automatic you can set a preference channel switch that is semiautomatic in the Asus interface for DFS channels.

 

The 3074 port which UPnP will open automatically if enabled is fine, but if you don't use UPnP, you need to forward that to the Xbox for both UDP/TCP protocols.

 

Don't use QoS at high speeds, eg: anything above 500Mbps full-fibre lines. Don't use DPI (Deep Packet Inspection) on Asus for detecting attacks (AI protection) as it will slow the throughput down to below the 500Mbps mark.

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@DeMuirs 

 

Connections to Sky can also use DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation (PD) and this will grab an IPv6 block and IPv4 IP address, running double NAT is also okay in most cases the only thing that does have issues is with some VPN incoming connections, other things like gaming usually work just fine when manually forwarding the ports through both routers.

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This message was authored by ShaunC85 This message was authored by: ShaunC85

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@mae-3  This is exactly why I asked you stuff earlier. Very detailed answer. I'm on full fibre 900 guaranteed 650 is it or something. Yeah I've turned most stuff off what you suggested. I did a test on the Xbox earlier on 5ghz WiFi and still was only getting around 280mbs. I play wired pretty much 95% of the time and just I was getting 998mbs so I was happy with that just surprised I'm not getting higher on WiFi, I'll do what you've suggested and get back to you. I know currently 160 is turned on so I'll turn that off. That 3074 port is there, and when I go to manual to change it some others come up when I click back on auto it goes to 3074. I'm not familiar with port forwarding unless I did it before for the 3074 and can't remember. Does a DNS matter on my router? 

This message was authored by mae-3 This message was authored by: mae-3

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@ShaunC85 

 

The DNS servers as long as valid shouldn't make a great deal of difference but I use 9.9.9.9 Quad DNS and it works well on my Xbox Series X, it is a great public DNS server 9.9.9.9 and is based in London and around the world, IIRC, and is fast at responding to requests and routes well.

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This message was authored by DeMuirs This message was authored by: DeMuirs

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Hi @mae-3. Many thanks for that. Yes, realised that this was the case. Everything is working as advertised here. In theory I could set-up the Draytek Vigor 130 in bridge mode and access its interface using a vlan tag however, the ASUS RC-AX88U doesn’t support that. In any case the Draytek Vigor 130 is only running as a modem E.G. no traffic as such as being routed through it. Also using an ASUS RC-AX58U V2 here as an additional wireless point and all of this is connected up using 1GB ethernet switches and both ASUS rooters are using variants of the third-party Merlin firmware which is excellent. All WIFI6 but 80Mhz channels as that is plenty fast enough and, in any case, if you increase the speed of network channels from 20Mhz to say 40Mhz you will lose 3DB of signal. This is another good reason to run WIF6 channels at 80 MHz and 2.4 channels at 20Mhz as in both cases you don’t really need the speed, and it is a bit more considerate to your neighbours. Both routers use separate network IDs on 2.4 and 5Ghz networks so no band steering here although they both use the same network SSID for 2.4 and 5Ghz respectively. I did enable IPV6 as a temporary measure and it works although couldn’t see the point leaving it set-up like that as I am only running an 80MB connection. Also, set-up a couple of headless raspberry pies with pihole but never figured out how to set those up using IPV 6 to block advertising on the network although IPV4 is easy enough as you simply assign the IP addresses of both pies as primary and secondary DNS on the Lan connection which will block advertising.

 

Had a play with Nor VPN which was easy enough to get going and was able to set it up rooter wide tunnelling all traffic through it. However, I use software to play with other musicians remotely called Jamulus. This software uses UDP and unfortunately, Nord VPN seems to have an issue with the packet size as it is stopping the first entire directory of servers from being displayed in the Jamulus client. Thought I would try using Nor VPN on a Windows PC but again the application is stopping all servers from the first directory in Jamulus from being displayed. Did interrogate the packet size using the ping command and set it correctly but still couldn’t get it going. Suspect it is an issue with Nord VPN. Shall get in touch with them and let them know that this is an issue.

 

BTW, for anyone running an Xbox, plug it into ethernet if you can. I do that here and in fact everything that will go on ethernet including firesticks, Google TV Chromecast, Chromecast Audio etc is on ethernet as wireless is a technology of convenience.

 

This message was authored by don-kee991 This message was authored by: don-kee991

Re: PPPOE codes for connection to third party router

Hello - I moved across from Vodafone to Sky today and pretty much the exact same situation you described has happened to me.

 

I was expecting my PPPoE connection (via a Zyxel modem that's in pass-through mode) to drop and then I'd have to follow some instructions to get DHCP 61 to work. However, Sky have confirmed my switch is completed and I've had no detectable drop in service even though my vodafone details are still entered. I can see that my external IP on my main router (the GL-iNET GL-AX1800) is now one from Sky. I was quite pleasantly surprised!

 

My question for you is - do I need to worry or change anything? Or can I just leave it as it is and get on with my life? I notice that you are a few months in now so I just wondered - is this set-up likely to just continue to work as it currently is, or will I face issues later on and have a stressful time trying to get back online? I don't really want to touch it if I can avoid it!

This message was authored by DeMuirs This message was authored by: DeMuirs

Re: PPPOE codes for connection to third party router

Hi @don-kee991. I suspect that it will keep working Although I elected to add the option 61 user  name of:

abcdefgh@skydsl

 

and password of:

1234567890abcdef

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