Recording on Sky glass or stream

[Jporch316]

The soon to be released freely will probably be the trigger for the notice period and the fact that the mobile companies are pushing for the release of the frequencies that freeeview is currently using for the next gen of mobile data services.

to be honest I can also see the end of fixed line broadband looming and everyone will have a mobile SIM card based internet connection in the distant future ....

[TimmyBGood]

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@Jporch316 wrote:

to be honest I can also see the end of fixed line broadband looming and everyone will have a mobile SIM card based internet connection in the distant future ....

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Which would rather raise the question of why billions are being invested in national fibre optic deployment.  Fixed optical lines do have the benefit of being able to carry multi gigabit service, where cellular data has fundamental physical restrictions.

[Cold+Sweat]

Seems to be changing quicker than some people can keep up with. 

When you think lots of channels are still in SD and haven't upgraded to HD yet, does this mean all streaming channels will be in HD?

You need a strong broadband connection for all these things, which a lot of areas particularly rural areas don't have as the properties are miles from the nearest exchange.

And at what cost will all these changes be?

Thats not to mention everyone would need to ditch their old televisions and buy new streaming compatible ones. 

[TimmyBGood]

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

Thats not to mention everyone would need to ditch their old televisions and buy new streaming compatible ones. 

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That's largely already happened with the end of CRT: pretty much any LCD television set with an HDMI port can be connected to a streaming device.

[MarkGoldsmith]

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

Seems to be changing quicker than some people can keep up with. 

When you think lots of channels are still in SD and haven't upgraded to HD yet, does this mean all streaming channels will be in HD?

You need a strong broadband connection for all these things, which a lot of areas particularly rural areas don't have as the properties are miles from the nearest exchange.

And at what cost will all these changes be?

Thats not to mention everyone would need to ditch their old televisions and buy new streaming compatible ones. 

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Wouldnt need to ditch TVs, just would need a box to plug into the TV, similar to when the analogue signal switched over to digital and customers bought Freeview boxes instead of being forced to replace their TVs.

The speed issue will get sorted by the fibre rollout that is happening on the network.

I saw this earlier this morning and thought it was interesting: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/virgin-media-o2-liberty-global-and-telefonica-kick-off-plans-to-cre...

[TimmyBGood]

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

You need a strong broadband connection for all these things, which a lot of areas particularly rural areas don't have as the properties are miles from the nearest exchange.

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The distance of the exchange is much less of a factor with FTTP.  The national target is 85% of UK properties to have gigabit potential by 2026: it's always been acknowledged that the remaining 15% are outside the scope of the commercial rollout because cabling cost exceeds all possible future profit.  Realistically some of those locations will have to be reached by other means, including data over satellite link.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8392/ 

[Jporch316]

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

You need a strong broadband connection for all these things, which a lot of areas particularly rural areas don't have as the properties are miles from the nearest exchange.

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The distance of the exchange is much less of a factor with FTTP.  The national target is 85% of UK properties to have gigabit potential by 2026: it's always been acknowledged that the remaining 15% are outside the scope of the commercial rollout because cabling cost exceeds all possible future profit.  Realistically some of those locations will have to be reached by other means, including data over satellite link.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8392/ 

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Had an interesting chat with one of my work customers a few weeks ago who lives in a rural area in north wales and recently subscribed to starlink satellite broadband. He was getting a very respectable 100mbs for roughly £100 a month. I would expect those prices to reduce more as time goes on .....

[TimmyBGood]

@Jporch316 

And a future government could choose to offer a subsidy for service over such a link if it wished (although having tax revenue going to the owner of that particular service might be regarded as problematic in some circles ; )

[Jporch316]

@TimmyBGood 

He could always do with a few bob more to get to mars ......

[Cold+Sweat]

I contacted EE yesterday to see how long before fibre will be coming to our street, and they just said not anytime soon. 

My thinking is if Sky are going to be ditching the dish, lots of customers still wouldn't have sufficient broadband speeds to sustain a reliable streaming service. 

Its almost as if Sky are jumping the gun here when the infrastructure isn't in place to be ditching the dish just yet.

Ironically I had an email from Sky yesterday asking me to come back and we're offering me a Sky Q box, which seems a bit pointless if the contract on Skys satellite is almost over. 

[GRIFF2013]

Yes I have to agree, EE's offering is very appealing.  I've had a few broadband down days and not being able to watch TV because its dependant on broadband is pretty miserable. I believe the Sky Stream has an aerial socket so they've clearly thought about future functionality.

EE's box allows you to carry on watching TV through the aerial,  although I assume NOW TV channels are out if there's a broadband drop.

EE also allows you to record and doesn't charge extra for multiroom. Again, I haven't been able to find out for definite if you can record the Now TV channels?

My Sky contract is up in July and it'll my last unless I can get a very good Sky Q offer, although even then the Sky Q mini's constantly drop out, even if they're hard wired,  so possibly time to look elsewhere.

[Cold+Sweat]

The ironic thing is I would go back to Sky if I knew the shelf life of the Sky Q and dish wasent so threatened. 

Can you believe they are that desperate to get me back they offered me a Sky Q box just yesterday, but I dont see the point if in a short time it will all be over. 

[GRIFF2013]

@Cold+Sweat But is there definitely going to be a switch off. I can't see that happening until 2030 at the earliest. The gigabit broadband rollout isn't scheduled before 2026.

Having had some down days on Sky Stream, where there's been no TV because of no Internet,  its pretty miserable.

I just can't see the end of satellite TV for years to come.

[Jporch316]

Skys streaming service can operate pretty well in hd from a fttc connection which is pretty much ubiquitous......  and depending on distance from the cabinet can reach speeds of 60-70mb

I ran my sky glass from a 35mb fttc connection successfully although I have recently swapped to Virgin who cabled my street in the last year.

like you I have been checking openreach s build plan online and my street has been delayed in the upgrade to fttp

[Cold+Sweat]

Apparently the Sky contract for the satellite ends by 2028.

Which in my opinion seems odd why Sky are offering me to come back with a Sky Q box, if it will end in 4 years.