Recording on Sky glass or stream

[TimmyBGood]

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

They just watch normal live tv. 

Will people like that get left behind. 

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'normal live tv' currently requires signal reception from a local DTTV transmitter or a satellite.

Once there are no operational television broadcast satellites with a footprint over the UK (around 2030 if the current fleet is not replaced by SES) and if the frequency spectrum used by Freeview broadcast is withdrawn by government (with 2034 being a significant year) then there's simply not any broadcast transmission mechanism: internet access becomes the only data pathway.

Given something like 16 million UK domestic properties currently use DTTV ('Freeview'), any government in the next decade would need to oversee a transition to online-only 'television' rather carefully.  It is worth considering that a roughly similar transition has already been done once with the move from analogue to digital television, though, and is currently underway for 'landline' telephony.

[GRIFF2013]

My guess is that now EE have introduced recording on their box , Sky will probably have to respond.

[MarkGoldsmith]

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@GRIFF2013 wrote:

My guess is that now EE have introduced recording on their box , Sky will probably have to respond.

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Thats not physically possible as Sky Glass and Sky Stream dont have hard drives.

[GRIFF2013]

Yes, by respond, I meant luanch a similar product I.e one with a hard drive

[TimmyBGood]

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@GRIFF2013 wrote:

now EE have introduced recording on their box

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Only on the big EE TV box (the 'Pro'): the 'EE TV Box Mini' doesn't record.

Historically Sky hasn't really seen BT/EE TV as a significant competitor because it was in a different market space (and tied to BT as an ISP anyway)

[mikealanr]

I have a BT Pro box now running the EE software. I left Sky as got a deal but the service is dire in comparison to Glass/stream. The UI is clunky, only a very limited number of channels available in IP mode and the pay TV channels are supplied via NowTV anyway. So much son I've knocked it down to the very basic package and come back to sky after surviving 6 months.

As BT/EEs grip on sports loosens (i.e. TNT) they loose bargaining power. The box only recently got Discovery+ and Apple TV+ apps and is missing things like YouTube and disney.

EE are launching the service via a branded apple TV 4k box. With no recording. I can see the pro box being discontinued, and agree in its current form definitely not a competitor for Sky that requires a response.

MikeAlanR

[Jporch316]

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@mikealanr wrote:

I have a BT Pro box now running the EE software. I left Sky as got a deal but the service is dire in comparison to Glass/stream. The UI is clunky, only a very limited number of channels available in IP mode and the pay TV channels are supplied via NowTV anyway. So much son I've knocked it down to the very basic package and come back to sky after surviving 6 months.

As BT/EEs grip on sports loosens (i.e. TNT) they loose bargaining power. The box only recently got Discovery+ and Apple TV+ apps and is missing things like YouTube and disney.

EE are launching the service via a branded apple TV 4k box. With no recording. I can see the pro box being discontinued, and agree in its current form definitely not a competitor for Sky that requires a response.

MikeAlanR

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I recently switched internet to Virgin and persuaded them to give me a free Virgin stream box (which paradoxically I Have plugged into my glass tv) 

I have to say I am very pleasantly surprised after the most recent update, the tv guide works flawlessly and the apps are all speedy and uhd. I believe the entertainment packages are priced significantly cheaper than sky (for the sky channels). If they offered  multi room service I would seriously consider my subscription with sky and swapping. The only point I'm not sure about is wether there are in demand sky shows in uhd . 

[Cold+Sweat]

We have EE TV now and its great, we can record 2 channels while watching another channel, and its even got Skys old feature where you click on a future programme to remind you its starting later in the day or evening or whatever, rather than record the programme its a useful feature I concider. 

We are very happy with it and will probably never go back to Sky now. They have ommited too many things in my opinion, like being able to record, the program reminder, etc etc. 

Now soon ditching the dish forever I think is a serious mistake, especially for elderly customers or if you got poor broadband signal/speeds.

Sorry but Sky has lost us as customers, and I used to have Sky from when it first came out in the 80's.

[TimmyBGood]

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

Now soon ditching the dish forever I think is a serious mistake, especially for elderly customers or if you got poor broadband signal/speeds.

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As noted elsewhere, Sky does not own or operate any satellites, and never has.  If the investors in SES don't see any long term (at least a decade) financial return from replacing the orbiting cluster at 28.2E then there just won't be anything up there for all those Sky dishes to point at.

[Cold+Sweat]

Well its Skys loss in my opinion. 

I am not a fan of streaming tv at all. If you get an internet outage, it will cause nothing but misery. 

A dish or aerial reception was always much more robust and reliable. 

I think Sky has been foolish in jumping on the streaming bandwagon, and they have certainly lost me as a customer. 

[MarkGoldsmith]

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

Well its Skys loss in my opinion. 

I am not a fan of streaming tv at all. If you get an internet outage, it will cause nothing but misery. 

A dish or aerial reception was always much more robust and reliable. 

I think Sky has been foolish in jumping on the streaming bandwagon, and they have certainly lost me as a customer. 

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Everyone is jumping on the streaming bandwagon, whether  people like it or not it is indeed going to be the future of television. 

[HotStuff3]

Is it possible to 'Record' Sky News or BBC news channel on Sky Stream? I like this feature on Sky+. 

Sometimes I switch on news at 3:30 but want to watch the programme from 3:00. Is this possible on Sky Stream?

[MarkGoldsmith]

@HotStuff3 Check out the news section of this page: https://www.sky.com/help/articles/your-playlist-and-tv-guide-sky-glass

Generally I believe for the live streaming news playlisting won't work, but it does work for "shows" rather than the live news streaming. E.g the hour long shows Sky have every weekday evening with Sophy Ridge'a politics show and the Uk tonight show do become available to watch on-demand via the News section on Sky Stream.

[Cold+Sweat]

But if you don't have broadband like my parents how will they watch tv?

[MarkGoldsmith]

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@Cold+Sweat wrote:

But if you don't have broadband like my parents how will they watch tv?

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Longer term everyone will need broadband. Whilst Freeview isn't going anywhere anytime soon it will likely cease at some point between 2030-2034. I believe currently the  multiplex licenses all expire by 2034, and next year OFCOM is set to decide whether they want to give the required 5 year notice period to shut it off completely earlier than the license expiry, which means the earliest it would go it 2030.

I could easily see satelliete broadcasting ceasing in a similarish timeline towards the end of this decade as well.

To be honest by the end of the decade the TV industry will likely look completely different, i'm not sure how many linear TV channels would even exist by then, perhaps save for one or two runs on public service broadcasters as part of their PSB obligation.