Discussion topic: Recording on Sky glass or stream
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Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 07:25 PM
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Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream
I'm definitely noticing a lot more openreach action in my little corner of the world the last 6 months ..... I think they are ramping up the rollout
43inch Gen 1 and 55 inch Gen 2 Sky Glass & sky live camera 3 Pucks. Virgin media M500 on hub 5x. Four sky mobile sims.
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 07:35 PM
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I live in Cornwall, but we we're told fibre broadband won't reach us for years yet.
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 07:38 PM
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Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream
- But surely rather than lose customers that rely on a dish to receive Sky, they need to invest in a new satellite. They have made billions from us over the years.
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 07:41 PM
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@Cold+Sweat As already posted the satellites are not Sky's they belong to SES, and if it's too costly Sky can't force them to be replaced.
No broadcaster or platform ever own their own satellites.
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Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 08:37 PM
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So surely all the more reason for Sky to invest in a new satellite of their own, rather than force everyone to go down the streaming route? They have made billions of profit over the years.
I can't physically see how every single Sky customer will be able to continue to be a customer of Sky without a dish.
Plus its worth a mention that Sky is exclusive to the UK, but when we went to Spain in 1996 we had Sky tv in our hotel, and some of the entertainment complexes had Sky broadcasting, so they must have been able to recieve it via the same satellite as the UK, so if Sky can only rely on streaming, surely they will lose customers in other countries like Spain??
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 08:44 PM
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@Cold+Sweat You don't seem to be grasping this.
Sky have not ever, nor will ever purchase their own satellites, they simply don't have the billions needed to do so! Just where do you think this money is going to come from?
Spanish viewing will be by illegal means as Spain is not a market Sky operate in so spanish bars/hotels using sky illegally will simply have to do without.
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Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 08:46 PM - last edited: 08 Apr 2025 08:47 PM
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Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream
A satellite for just TV is kind of limited these days, satellites would be better used for internet access like Starlink, because that facilitates TV and many other services to people who can't get fibre or fast 5G.
Side note: Sky isn't exclusive to the UK. It's in a bunch of European markets and each of them are moving to the IPTV model. Also Sky is now owned by Comcast who has no real affinity to satellite like BSKYB and related companies did, to them they want to distribute TV and IPTV is the future that they see.
If there's a market for someone to launch a competing satellite TV service, somebody will. I would bet money that you won't see that happen.
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:01 PM - last edited: 08 Apr 2025 09:05 PM
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Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream
@Cold+Sweat wrote:
I can't physically see how every single Sky customer will be able to continue to be a customer of Sky without a dish.
Sky (or rather Comcast) doesn't need 'every single customer': enough to make a profit is fine. Although Sky carries the Public Service channels it is not itself a PSB, and has no obligation regarding universal access.
Sky can only rely on streaming, surely they will lose customers in other countries like Spain??
As noted above, Spain is not a country where Sky is a licenced broadcaster anyway: that's only UK/RoI, Germany, Italy, Austria and Switzerland .
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Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:04 PM - last edited: 08 Apr 2025 09:23 PM
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Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream
@GD1 wrote:
Sky have not ever, nor will ever purchase their own satellites, they simply don't have the billions needed to do so! Just where do you think this money is going to come from?
One slight correction: broadcast satellites are relatively cheap (somewhere between eighty and a hundred million pounds including launch, or about 1/20th of a PL season each ; )
Sky won't commission a satellite because, contrary to popular belief, Sky is a satellite television business rather than a satellite company...
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Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:07 PM - last edited: 08 Apr 2025 09:07 PM
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@Anonymous wrote:
If there's a market for someone to launch a competing satellite TV service, somebody will.
Which never happened even when satellite was the only game in town ; )
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Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:11 PM - last edited: 08 Apr 2025 09:13 PM
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Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream
All depends on what and how much sky are selling ....... if there's not many new customers opting for Q then it may not even make 2029 .......
Edit ..... new customers that is
43inch Gen 1 and 55 inch Gen 2 Sky Glass & sky live camera 3 Pucks. Virgin media M500 on hub 5x. Four sky mobile sims.
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:41 PM
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It's not so much I'm not grasping this.
Ok let me put it this way, imagine if television couldn't be streamed at all, are we saying in 2029 or beyond that that Sky without a satellite would just dissolve into nothing?
Obviously up to this point Sky have relied on a satellite, and was never broadcasting via an aerial, but if I'm honest I'm seriously concerned from Sky's point of view because I don't think broadband is robust enough for the entire Sky platform to broadcast from.
So its not so much I refuse to grasp this, I do have genuine concerns about the future for Sky, as I think they are heading down the nieve route of streaming their service to millions of customers that don't yet have the reliable broadband service to carry the weight of millions of customers if I'm making sense?
To put it another way where I live at peak times when everyone is at home all using the Internet our broadband speeds drop dramatically. But imagine millions of Sky customers all pulling from the same source or area. Its going to cause major buffering or power intensive broadband stations, all of which will be unreliable and power intensive and bad for the planet / environment.
Its bad enough the government is pushing for electric cars, the power plants won't cope.
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:42 PM
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I still see lots of Sky engineer vans in my area, which must be installing Sky via a, dish. Does that tell us anything?
Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:47 PM - last edited: 08 Apr 2025 09:58 PM
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Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream
@Cold+Sweat wrote:
imagine if television couldn't be streamed at all, are we saying in 2029 or beyond that that Sky without a satellite would just dissolve into nothing?
I'd gently point out that since 2018 Sky Group has been owned by a cable television company...
https://news.sky.com/story/comcast-outbids-fox-in-auction-for-sky
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Message posted on 08 Apr 2025 09:49 PM
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@Cold+Sweat wrote:
I still see lots of Sky engineer vans in my area, which must be installing Sky via a, dish. Does that tell us anything?
https://news.sky.com/story/sky-to-cut-1-000-roles-this-year-amid-shift-from-satellite-services
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