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@PhilHampson-Sky wrote:

@oldfella 

Hi @PhilHampson-Sky  said

If you are watching Streamed content then it can be watched directly.  Catchup and On Demand has to be downloaded but you can start watching within a few seconds.

 

Yes I now appreciate that but what I was trying to ascertain was Can Sky do streaming via the SkyQ equipment or can they only use Internet for downloading on that system ?


As I said @PhilHampson-Sky 

Streamed content can be directly watched without downloading.

For Example all the Apps on Q work like normal streaming Apps.

iPlayer - Netflix - Prime etc..

On the Sky Tennis channel where there is a match choice via the red button and they are streamed (Red button takes you to the App) then all matches available are streamed and not downloaded.

You cannot download streamed content.

 

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@nigea99 & @oldfella  Thanks for your further replies.

It useful to know that Sky CAN stream on the SkyQ system and that they are therefore technically capable of supplyimg a full range of tennis replays like Prime, TennisTV, Discovery+ & BBC( via iPlayer).

Whether they will ever aspire to doing so is another matter.

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Since all those are already available on SkyQ via those apps I don't see Sky spending a lot of money or time duplicating that delivery.

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@PhilHampson-Sky wrote:

@nigea99 & @oldfella  Thanks for your further replies.

It useful to know that Sky CAN stream on the SkyQ system and that they are therefore technically capable of supplyimg a full range of tennis replays like Prime, TennisTV, Discovery+ & BBC( via iPlayer).

Whether they will ever aspire to doing so is another matter.


As I said @PhilHampson-Sky 

Sky is already streaming in the Apps that are on Sky.

ie

Netflix, Prime, Discovery Plus, BBC iPlayer.

Any App that is on Q is currently streamed.

Tennis TV is not an App that is on Q.   However if they ever add it in the future it will be streamed (no Apps can be added by users; only by Sky.  Negotiations and agreements have to be reached by Sky and the App provider)

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@oldfella wrote:

@PhilHampson-Sky wrote:

@nigea99 & @oldfella  Thanks for your further replies.

It useful to know that Sky CAN stream on the SkyQ system and that they are therefore technically capable of supplyimg a full range of tennis replays like Prime, TennisTV, Discovery+ & BBC( via iPlayer).

Whether they will ever aspire to doing so is another matter.


As I said @PhilHampson-Sky 

Sky is already streaming in the Apps that are on Sky.

ie

Netflix, Prime, Discovery Plus, BBC iPlayer.

Any App that is on Q is currently streamed.

Tennis TV is not an App that is on Q.   However if they ever add it in the future it will be streamed (no Apps can be added by users; only by Sky.  Negotiations and agreements have to be reached by Sky and the App provider)


I guess there can be confusion as the Red button on the Tennis channel (and other channels like F1) trigger app like functions allowing streaming of additional feeds (e.g. other games, driver specific cameras)

 

edit : I guess one could argue the red button is an app - albeit not accessed like stand alone apps

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@Chodley said

Since all those are already available on SkyQ via those apps I don't see Sky spending a lot of money or time duplicating that delivery.

By all these presumably you mean all the match replays available on TennisTV.

When Prime had the tennis rights,  they provides replays of all the matches at tournaments. When Sky took over these rights and trumpeted how good their coverage was going to be, the hope from tennis fans was that Sky would do the same. However they are currently not doing so, although the recent posts in this thread now confirm that it is not a technical limitations with the equipment that stops them doing so. Tennis fans are obviously very unhappy that they have to pay for a TennisTV subscription in additional to any Sky subscription to view all these.

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No I meant all those apps. I didn't know that Prime no longer have any tennis rights.

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@PhilHampson-Sky wrote:

@Chodley said

Since all those are already available on SkyQ via those apps I don't see Sky spending a lot of money or time duplicating that delivery.

By all these presumably you mean all the match replays available on TennisTV.

When Prime had the tennis rights,  they provides replays of all the matches at tournaments. When Sky took over these rights and trumpeted how good their coverage was going to be, the hope from tennis fans was that Sky would do the same. However they are currently not doing so, although the recent posts in this thread now confirm that it is not a technical limitations with the equipment that stops them doing so. Tennis fans are obviously very unhappy that they have to pay for a TennisTV subscription in additional to any Sky subscription to view all these.


@PhilHampson-Sky I think the problem is no one knows what exact rights Sky got for the tennis, bearing in mind that Prime was purely streaming  where Sky on the other is Streaming and satellite broadcasting  also they have to be allowed to record to the respective satellite boxes.

Perhaps they only have the rights to have a certain amount of replays on catchup ? who knows ?

If we knew what exact rights Sky have then a direct comparison of Sky and Amazon Prime could be made 

 

I may be completely wrong and Sky have exactly the same rights as Amazon Prime had


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@PhilHampson-Sky wrote:

It useful to know that Sky CAN stream on the SkyQ system and that they are therefore technically capable of supplyimg a full range of tennis replays like Prime, TennisTV, Discovery+ & BBC( via iPlayer).

Whether they will ever aspire to doing so is another matter.


Hi @PhilHampson-Sky 

I suppose that you are aware if you look at Sky Q Catch up.

ie

Catch up TV - Sky Channels- Sky Sports.

There are currently 90 (yes that's ninety) Tennis matches available.

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@oldfella Yes, that looks quite a lot but it covers quite a lot of different tournaments going back a few weeks. For Indian Wells alone there would be 95 mens singles matches. The chance of finding a replay of a specific match and quickly after it's completion, like tennis fans could with Prime and can still do with Discovery+ for their 2 Grand Slams, is quite small.

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@PhilHampson-Sky wrote:

@oldfella Yes, that looks quite a lot but it covers quite a lot of different tournaments going back a few weeks. For Indian Wells alone there would be 95 mens singles matches. The chance of finding a replay of a specific match and quickly after it's completion, like tennis fans could with Prime and can still do with Discovery+ for their 2 Grand Slams, is quite small.


@PhilHampson-Sky seeing as @oldfella is always spot on with his replies have you actually tried his solution as you seem to think that Sky doesn't offer what you are actually paying extra for.

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Not sure which specific match you are referring too but as tennis is not my main sport finding specific matches was actually easy 

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@best+of+the+best wrote:

@PhilHampson-Sky wrote:

@oldfella Yes, that looks quite a lot but it covers quite a lot of different tournaments going back a few weeks. For Indian Wells alone there would be 95 mens singles matches. The chance of finding a replay of a specific match and quickly after it's completion, like tennis fans could with Prime and can still do with Discovery+ for their 2 Grand Slams, is quite small.


@PhilHampson-Sky seeing as @oldfella is always spot on with his replies have you actually tried his solution as you seem to think that Sky doesn't offer what you are actually paying extra for.

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Not sure which specific match you are referring too but as tennis is not my main sport finding specific matches was actually easy 


@best+of+the+best I think that the issue is that Sky don't make every single match available On Demand (only the one's they actually broadcast live) whereas Prime apparently did. 


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@best+of+the+best Spot on. Its OnDemand ( matches which have not been broadcast ) which are missing. If there is only 1 channel broadcasting and there are about 8 parallel courts, then Catch-up ( using the definition of  matches broadcast ) only represents about 12 % of the matches that day. The others may have been available through the Red Button but not much use if these were during the night and could not be recorded. The fact that Sky made all these matches available through the Red Button means that they certainly had broadcasting Rights for them so it would be surprising if they did not have the Rights to make them available as Replays.

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Sorry @oj01 

It was you who  I meant to say had got it spot on. So many references in the post that I picked up the wrong one.

Anyway, yes, it is lack of OnDemand replays that is the problem.

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