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This message was authored by Braepark This message was authored by: Braepark

Sky Q won’t connect to 4G router

Hi

 

We previously had broadband with BT and only got speeds of 1mbps. I now have a Huawei 4G Pro 3 Router with and EE 4G sim. We now get 14-20 mbps.  I can connect my Xbox, phone and smart TV's to it. However the Sky Q box won't connect properly. 

I can connect to the router but it says there is no internet connection. 

we have an unlimited plan so data shouldn't be an issue. 

thanks. 

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This message was authored by Lisa-P1987 This message was authored by: Lisa-P1987

Re: Sky Q won’t connect to 4G router

Posted by a Sky employee

The Q boxes won't connect to 4G mobile network BB unfortunately. 

Thanks

Lisa - Sky Tech Team Expert
This message was authored by Chris+Hx This message was authored by: Chris+Hx

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@Lisa-P1987 
Why exactly is this?

Can you please provide a detailed explanation as to why Sky are restricting access from EE 4G specifically?

Under new regulations from Ofcom,  consumers are entitled to minimum broadband speeds..
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/broadband-uso-need-to-kno...

I have SKY & BT ADSL Broadband (both are appalling and sub 10Mbps).. as well as 2x EE 4G (30-40Mbps) connections!! 

 

Having submitted a request under the BT scheme (https://www.bt.com/broadband/USO) they are initially offering a 4G router as the solution.   Given EE are part of BT now - I fail to understand why Sky are discriminating against customers being forced to use more expensive providers.   I've read other thread citing the MTU size as an issue - but it would be useful to understand if this is legitimate - and how this issue can be addressed.

I look forward to your early reply.

Thanks
Chris Hx



This message was authored by Rhonny This message was authored by: Rhonny

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@Chris+Hx

Sky aren't restricting anything. It's just that 4G routers don't tend to supply the consistent signal that Sky Q needs - 4G by its nature fluctuates considerably. You could try connecting Sky Q to the router by ethernet in case that works so the box is always getting the fastest connection possible. Might be worth a try. 

This message was authored by Lisa-P1987 This message was authored by: Lisa-P1987

Re: Sky Q won’t connect to 4G router

Posted by a Sky employee

As @Rhonny  mentioned 4G routers tend to be very unstable and the Q box needs a stable connection. 

The main box will work without an internet connection you will just have poor access to on demand and apps. 

This also means if you have a mini box, the mini will struggle to have a stable connection aswell as it relies on a strong 5GHz connection to work. 

As suggested, you could try using an ethernet cable to connect the main to the router. This might help. 

 
Thanks

Lisa - Sky Tech Team Expert
This message was authored by Chodley This message was authored by: Chodley

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Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out more

Why does it need a super stable connection? All internet media streaming assumes fluctuations and lost packets. If all the other streaming services can work over 4G, I fail to see what makes SkyQ special.

 

The mini-Q connection has nothing to do with the broadband connection does it? You just connect it on its own mesh.

 

I had the same problem trying SkyQ tethered to my 4G phone.

 

@Braepark As for MTU size, I fixed netflix and disney+ on sky by changing the MTU on my router (BT fibre) but skyQ itself never needed an MTU change.

This message was authored by Del-Kinloss This message was authored by: Del-Kinloss

Re: Sky Q won’t connect to 4G router

Hi @Lisa-P1987, I live in an area where my landline broadband peaks at 2.4mbps and when I contacted BT re minimum service standard I was advised that 4G was the only available solution. I installed a Draytek 2862Ln with an EE data sim and a connection to my landline ADSL provider with the router set to load balance the connections. The router was connected to a Sky Booster and a Deco-M5 providing Mesh WiFi.

I now frequently get No Subscription errors when using On Demand. 

Sky need to remove the block on 4g broadband connections as it is obvious that it is affecting a number of Sky customers who are only trying to do the right thing. 

This message was authored by bob1234 This message was authored by: bob1234

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Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out more

When last I had an internet problem BT lent me a 4G router although that worked fine most of the time I did notice that often the latency went right up and although everything else worked Q dropped out.

It might be worth looking at the latency, not that you can do much about it.

This message was authored by Chris+Hx This message was authored by: Chris+Hx

Re: Sky Q won’t connect to 4G router

This simply isn't true. 
4g routers are very stable.  The largest consumer of data on my network is my sky q box.  For the last month I've dropped both adsl connections from the configuration  - and it's worked flawlessly for 5 of us - 3 working from home using video conferencing for much of the day - and heavy volumes of netflix via the main sky a box everyday for 3 hours a day minimum.  
latency is currently around 37ms for the 4g connection which is more than acceptable

for live video conferencing - so I see no reason why this shouldn't be acceptable for downloading other on demand content.

 

This message was authored by Chris+Hx This message was authored by: Chris+Hx

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@Del-Kinloss 

Couldn't  agree more. 
Sky need to stop making excuses and  get this unblocked. 

This message was authored by Chodley This message was authored by: Chodley

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Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out more

Well is it blocked or not? Last two posts suggest not, though they disagree on the performance.

This message was authored by Chrisee This message was authored by: Chrisee

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@Chodley whilst not recommended you can connect a Q box to a mobile WiFi router just like any other device. You need to connect to the 2.4GHz WiFi signal as the 5GHz one will not connect. If having trouble with a dualband SSID try separating the 2 WiFi bands. 

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This message was authored by Chodley This message was authored by: Chodley

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Thanks. I've only ever tried tethering to a phone as a test/backup. Didn't work. Maybe the phones don't support 2.4GHz for that.

This message was authored by Chrisee This message was authored by: Chrisee

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Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out more

@Chodley tethering can work but is even more flaky - the engineers can use their phones to authorise boxes where there is no internet connection.

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This message was authored by Chodley This message was authored by: Chodley

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Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out more

It didn't even see the Wi-Fi SSID for me. Only tried once though.

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