27 Jul 2022 10:45 AM
Ive got a Sky booster 4 which works really well but the speeds arent great. All 3 green lights are on but im only getting 80mb when my router is 500mb. Any suggestions on how to improve this?
27 Jul 2022 01:39 PM - last edited: 27 Jul 2022 01:49 PM
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@Saab+aero wrote:
Ive got a Sky booster 4 which works really well but the speeds arent great.
Could you clarify if you are referring to a Sky Broadband Hub (black) or a Sky Wifi booster (white)?
Note that no non-802.11ax (WiFi 6) hardware is likely to be able to deliver FTTP speeds wirelessly in real-world settings.
27 Jul 2022 02:42 PM
@TimmyBGood. the booster is a white SE210. We do have a SKY Q multiroom box which i was wondering if the router linking to causing slower speeds?
27 Jul 2022 03:12 PM
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@Saab+aero wrote:
We do have a SKY Q multiroom box which i was wondering if the router linking to causing slower speeds?
Quite possibly: various posts have suggested unwanted interactions between Q boxes and Hubs/boosters. It's worth noting that Q was developed in around 2014 and really doesn't seem to have anticipated the subsequent availability of 500 and 900 Mbs FTTP in domestic settings.
28 Jul 2022 10:09 AM
Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out more80mbps over WiFi from a booster that is part of a wider mesh setup is a good speed. Not sure what else you expect really. If you want blazing fast mesh WiFi speeds you'll need to invest in a separate 3rd party mesh systems that usually cost £££s for a reason.
28 Jul 2022 10:49 AM
@jamesn123 wrote:80mbps over WiFi from a booster that is part of a wider mesh setup is a good speed. Not sure what else you expect really. If you want blazing fast mesh WiFi speeds you'll need to invest in a separate 3rd party mesh systems that usually cost £££s for a reason.
28 Jul 2022 10:56 AM - last edited: 28 Jul 2022 10:58 AM
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@TechmanagerMal wrote:
other ISPs have managed including BT and Vodaphone so why not a decent router from Sky?
The current BT Hub is not WiFi 6: its sucessor is expected but hasn't landed yet. This really isn't a good time to be trying to get a million new relatively cheap semiconductor-based devices manufactured.
28 Jul 2022 11:00 AM
Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out moreNot really sure what you are getting at. Routers perform completely different depending on environment as well as the users usage of it. I know plenty of people who have found Vodafone's routers to provide awful speeds so its completely down to experience.
My point was referring to using a booster/the mesh system which by design will cause speed drops.
28 Jul 2022 11:14 AM
@jamesn123 wrote:Not really sure what you are getting at. Routers perform completely different depending on environment as well as the users usage of it. I know plenty of people who have found Vodafone's routers to provide awful speeds so its completely down to experience.
My point was referring to using a booster/the mesh system which by design will cause speed drops.
28 Jul 2022 11:18 AM
Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out moreThere is no 'Known issue' its simply a technical limitation of WiFi technology. If you have more than one WiFi node that talk to each other over a wireless mesh/backhaul then you will suffer some speed loss due to overheads, number of hops from slave to master node and WiFi interference. Its got nothing to do with Sky gear its simply the physics of mesh WiFi networks.
28 Jul 2022 03:48 PM
@jamesn123 wrote:There is no 'Known issue' its simply a technical limitation of WiFi technology. If you have more than one WiFi node that talk to each other over a wireless mesh/backhaul then you will suffer some speed loss due to overheads, number of hops from slave to master node and WiFi interference. Its got nothing to do with Sky gear its simply the physics of mesh WiFi networks.
28 Jul 2022 04:27 PM
Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out moreDue to Overheads, node hops, WiFi interference and cheaper hardware yes.
There is a reason good quality mesh kits cost £££s.
29 Jul 2022 03:35 AM - last edited: 29 Jul 2022 03:47 AM
@jamesn123 wrote:Not really sure what you are getting at. Routers perform completely different depending on environment as well as the users usage of it. I know plenty of people who have found Vodafone's routers to provide awful speeds so its completely down to experience.
My point was referring to using a booster/the mesh system which by design will cause speed drops.
29 Jul 2022 07:25 AM
Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out more@TechmanagerMal Sky Glass does not operate using mesh wifi itself as each unit just operates as a network client. When Sky Q launced in 2016 domestic mesh networking was not widely available. Sky bought a system from Airties which was fairly advanced then but now main stream networking suppliers like TP-Link, Netgear, Ubiquiti etc have introduced far more advanced systems. Some of which do use dedicated wifi signals for backhaul but you can improve the performance of Sky Q networks if you know what you are doing..
Mesh wifi nodes (any Q TV box or suitable booster and the Sky hub each act as nodes) communicate with any other node in range so you have multiple potential routes back to the Sky hub. Improve the speed of that backhaul by using say an ethernet connection improves the wifi speeds. Mesh networks are optimised for reliability rather than out right speed.
The system Airties developed can only handle so many simultaenous routing options without slowing down. Sky have set a hard limit of 8 nodes as adding more nodes than that will slow down wifi traffic on a Q network. In my experience the best performance was achieved by using the ethernet ports on the two most distant Q minis connected to powerline adapters back to the hub. I got a consistent 400Mb/s over this network more than ample for any domestic network especially as in 2016 I was limited to 80Mb/s external bandwidth..
I had 4 nodes on my network a Sky hub, a main Q box and 2Q minis spead over 3 levels. Late last year I switched to Sky Glass so lost the 3 network nodes the Q boxes provided and as Sky Glass is very sensitive to issues with data feed I bought a three node TP-Link Deco M4 mesh system. This runs in Access Point mode with the Sky hubs wifi disabled which gives me similar wifi speeds without using powerline - for some reason my Deco units dont play nicely with my Powerline adapters.
I could have paid more and bought a faster wifi Deco M9 6 mesh system to support speeds up to 900Mb/s whch costs over twice as much. However I judged that given the most demanding application I run is streaming UHD video to my 4 Glass units (3 pucks and one TV) which uses under 35Mb/s per stream that was not something worth paying for much as I am happy my car which can only manage 150mph rather than pay more for one that does 200mph which I will never be able to use given UK speed limits..Everyone has their own use case but I doubt few if any run apps that can take advantage of network speeds over 500Mb/s.
29 Jul 2022 10:05 AM
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