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This message was authored by Cat1967 This message was authored by: Cat1967

Connect Sky router to full fibre line?

Hi,

 

Bit of an odd question, but I am currently on a trial where I have a full fibre line (from Talk Talk) coming into my house that I don't yet have to pay for - they said for at least 6 months and probably longer, I don't have to pay.  It's in parallel with my Sky FTTC circuit.

 

I am wondering - what would happen if I plugged my Sky router into the full fibre line optical converter output?

 

At the moment I am a full Sky customer - Broadband / Talk / TV incluing 3 separate mini boxes Sky Q.

 

I am sure it won't work fully but would anything work at all?  I am thinking it will either be:

- Nothing works at all.

- Basic internet works but TV and phone line has problems.

- Everything except the landline phone # works.

 

Also would I break anything by trying this out?

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This message was authored by cookiemonsteruk This message was authored by: cookiemonsteruk

Re: Connect Sky router to full fibre line?

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@Cat1967 

 

It won't work .

 

sky uses dhcp option 61/ipoe to authenticate with its servers and talk will use pppoe . The authentication strings will be embedded onto their respective routers and aren't interchangeable

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Re: Connect Sky router to full fibre line?

@cookiemonsteruk 

 

TalkTalk uses DHCP IPoE without the requirement for DHCP Option 61.

 

@Cat1967 

 

It won't break the router if you plug it into the TalkTalk system and ONT but it likely won't work.

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@mae-3 

 

I just read up on that "automated authentication without need for username or password" using dhcp/ipoe. That surprised me

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@cookiemonsteruk & @Cat1967 

 

The DHCP IPoE isn't too different from DHCP Option 61 over IPoE and I'm wondering whether the TalkTalk system may just ignore the DHCP Option 61 field and work. 😉

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@mae-3 

 

Thinking exactly the same thing 🤔

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@Cat1967 

 

It would have to be the SR203 Sky Hub for any chance of working and you plug port 4 LAN/WAN into ONT.

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@mae-3 wrote:

@Cat1967 

 

It would have to be the SR203 Sky Hub for any chance of working and you plug port 4 LAN/WAN into ONT.


An ER115 will work.

I used a spare one I had knocking around when my SR203 died and managed to get the full speed on Ultrafast Plus. Just need to set it WANoE and plug port 2 into the ONT. The only caveat is it get a bit hot if there is a lot of downloading going on.

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This message was authored by Cat1967 This message was authored by: Cat1967

Re: Connect Sky router to full fibre line?

OK - how do I know which Sky router I actually have then?

This message was authored by mae-3 This message was authored by: mae-3

Re: Connect Sky router to full fibre line?

@Cat1967 

 

SR102 on the left, Sky Q ER110/ER115 middle and SR203 on the right.

 

Screenshot 2023-06-29 at 17.47.25.png

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@Cat1967 

The model label on the back/rear of it or look at the link below

https://www.sky.com/help/articles/set-up-hub-which-sky-hub-do-you-have

 

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This message was authored by Cat1967 This message was authored by: Cat1967

Re: Connect Sky router to full fibre line?

Ok it is SR203

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