@silver+stream wrote:
ok for all those wanting to know what its like as a Dumb TV if you keep it without a subscription to sky just disconect from wifi to give it a try,
I just tried this by going to settings network advanced and switching off wifi
you then get a screen with a wifi icon to reconect an arial icon snd 3 hdmi options
I selected an hdmi that has my ps4 on it and it turned on the ps4 when I pressed home to get back to the option screen and chose arial input it swiched off the ps4 and gave me the iprion to tune in freeview, once tuned it is complete with a epg for freview by tapping the left arrow along with a few other options so without a sky subscription it can be used just like a TV! iv you wanted a smart TV just plug in a fire stick qbox apple TV or the like.
Actually, that doesn't show you what it's like to use the TV without a subscription because it's still activated. I was still using mine while I was waiting for it to be picked up, the night before I reset it as requested but when they didn't turn up to pick it up but they did activate my Sky Q back. While it was still activated but without a subscription, I still had full access to all the settings, when I was trying to use it with Sky Q for a day (thankfully it was only a day before my new TV arrived because it DOES NOT work correctly with Sky Q unless you consider the Sky Q box remote turning the TV off when you click the Sky Q power button but doesn't turn it on, or some of the keys on the Sky Q remote triggering functions on the Glass including sending you back to the home screen) and a bunch of the setting were then greyed out as the TV wasn't activated. I'm pretty sure it stores the activation status for a period of time which makes sense for temporary blips in the internet connection and that will only expire after a set period of time when it deems it needs to phone home to verify. This is why I could still access everything but the premium channels for about 2 days while it was still activated despite my package being cancelled because it was still going on the 'lease' it had last got but when you reset it and tried to verify the sub again it obviously couldn't as that leases that was working had been wiped
This is why I've said previously it basically unusable on its own, yes you can feed HDMI signals into it but how many people subbing to Sky are just going to bin Sky off? They will want to go back to Q which doesn't then work properly with the TV and so you have a TV with compatibility issues with Q and which you are limited on what setting you can change to try and get the picture to be anywhere near satisfactory. And even with a sub and full ability to tweak (well what they consider full ability, even with a sub its massively lacking), it's not like it's great. The value is in the software because you can get a better TV and soundbar for around the same price
