Sky to launch Sky Q without dish by Xmas based on Xfinity X1 box

[bob1234]

@Q-tipsSo presumably it will not have the prime app.

[cookiemonsteruk]

I watched a bit of it so didn't hear all the details as i was hoping for the announcement of the xfinity. Not interested what happens when you cancel your subscription post it back ? Or do you buy the tv.  I trust my own judgement when looking for a tv and don't like being tied down or forced to "choose" a tv to get sky glass. Roll out xfinity and let us decide what tv is best for us

[Neil+Stevens]

yup exactly this. the lack of 120Hz will also lose a chunk of customers

[tarbat]

I wonder if all the features on GLASS will find there way onto Sky Q? Playlists, etc.

[fizzdisco]

The Scottish dude on the live stream just said "we're not messing around with frame rates and all that stuff that you turn off". Oh dear. 

He's like a used car salesman. 

Very scant mention of Dolby Vision... probably because no Sky content will be encoded as such. It'll be limited to Netflix & Disney+ I bet. 

[Onelastsalute]

That's the first thing I did with my top spec tv, turned off frame rates 

[Q-tips]

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@bob1234 wrote:

@Q-tipsSo presumably it will not have the prime app.

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They could still offer it as a free app downoad  for Prime subscribers. The Prime subscription was never integrated with Q like Netflix.

[tarbat]

No mention of an Amazon Prime or AppleTV app 😞

[Neil+Stevens]

they're going up against apple 

[fizzdisco]

It's a very good sales pitch. Millions will lap it up. Really intrigued to see some real world testing though. There's little mention of broadband speeds required to keep this all running smoothly, and little mention of UHD or HDR. 

[tarbat]

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@fizzdisco wrote:

There's little mention of broadband speeds required to keep this all running smoothly, and little mention of UHD or HDR. 

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Sky Inside

• WiFi or Ethernet

• HD broadband speed required

  10Mbps

• UHD broadband speed required

  25Mbps

• UHD x2 Sky Glass

  35Mbps

• Cables required

  One power cable

[simon194]

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@fizzdisco wrote:

It's a very good sales pitch. Millions will lap it up. Really intrigued to see some real world testing though. There's little mention of broadband speeds required to keep this all running smoothly, and little mention of UHD or HDR. 

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The FAQ in the Superuser forum suggests a min. 10 Mbps for HD and 25 Mbps for UHD.

[fizzdisco]

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@tarbat wrote:

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@fizzdisco wrote:

There's little mention of broadband speeds required to keep this all running smoothly, and little mention of UHD or HDR. 

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Sky Inside

• WiFi or Ethernet

• HD broadband speed required

  10Mbps

• UHD broadband speed required

  25Mbps

• UHD x2 Sky Glass

  35Mbps

• Cables required

  One power cable

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Yeah I got all that, but I think a lot of people will order it thinking it'll work like satellite delivered Sky Q, but will end up in a buffering hell-hole when their mid-range broadband, particularly over WiFi, starts to struggle. Or maybe it's an excuse for Sky to compress the hell out of all their content even more so that it saves bandwidth... Need to see some proper reviews and real-world testing. 

I'll shut up now. It'll work for many people, but it's not a product I'm interested in having. 

[Silver+Surfer+64]

Nothing regarding the box yet? Although even if it is mentioned at some point today, it's becoming pretty obvious that the push is all in their TV's, not the box, which will alienate many customers, this cannot be denied any longer, they will and already are putting customers backs up with this idea.

[JayBiz]

Lots of details still not given. For example, looking at the "legal but" at the bottom of the sky glass page it mentions a Netflix standard add on, and a Netflix premium add on. And there is mention of a UHD/Atmos add on. No mention of a HD add on. So my reading is that the basic Sky+Netflix subscription will include HD on Sky, SD only on Netflix. To get HD Netflix you'll pay more, to get UHD Netflix you'll pay separately for that, not as part of the UHD/Atmos. 

It also mentions that any 3rd party subscriptions you pay for outside Sky will not be viewable on sky glass. So prime/Disney+? Not available on glass. No cloud recording, as far as I can see, just adding on demand content to a playlist.

£5 a month to fast forward adverts?  On on demand content you already paying for. No words to describe that!!