Sky HDR

[GreenLantern]

Interesting opinion. Not one I share. For me, HDR is more important than UHD. I don't agree that it just makes everything brighter. It brings everything "to life". Netflix and Amazon Prime series in HDR are in a different league picture-wise...

[GreenLantern]

@Rhonny And yet you've told me in the past that hardly anyone knows about HDR and even less care. Strange how these threads keep appearing...

[Rhonny]

@GreenLantern

Yes, but look, it's all the same people.

[bob1234]

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@ianmerseyside wrote:

If you have a TV that doesn't do HLG (I'm fortunate that mine does), will it not just convert it to HDR10?  My previous TV didn't do Dolby Vision, but it just converted any DV content to HDR (HDR10).

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"There is also one issue with compatibility. Despite being backward-compatible with SDR TVs, it actually isn’t compatible with non-HLG HDR TVs. This can be fixed via firmware updates, but if your TV doesn’t support HLG out of the box and the manufacturer doesn’t issue an update, you’re out of luck."

[PBS83]

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@ianmerseyside wrote:

If you have a TV that doesn't do HLG (I'm fortunate that mine does), will it not just convert it to HDR10?  My previous TV didn't do Dolby Vision, but it just converted any DV content to HDR (HDR10).

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No, HLG is completely different and was designed specifically for broadcasters. 

Content by default on streaming services is HDR10 but that is improved on by Dolby Vision, which uses dynamic metadata throughout the programme, whereas HDR10 uses static metadata at the start only. They're one and the same essentially, which is why if your device doesn't support one, it will support the other (always HDR10). 

Sky Q doesn't need to support HDR10 for its own content as HLG is absolutely fine. They will need to implement it if they plan to offer Netflix, Disney+ etc though. 

[GreenLantern]

@Rhonny  Sorry Rhonny...imho you've lost this argument. I was talking recently to a senior Sky engineer guy (not a box connector who comes to your house) who told me that Sky went far too early into UHD and didn't factor in HDR at that time. Now they're trying to dig themselves out of a hole by saying "It's coming". They can't afford true HDR. And true HDR is more of a difference than UHD. But not for the Premier League as I think you've said. My opinion is it won't make much difference to live sports because of the lack of contrast. They've consistently lied to us for a couple of years and I genuinely have no idea why you continually avoid this issue

[PBS83]

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@GreenLantern wrote:

@Rhonny  Sorry Rhonny...imho you've lost this argument. I was talking recently to a senior Sky engineer guy (not a box connector who comes to your house) who told me that Sky went far too early into UHD and didn't factor in HDR at that time. Now they're trying to dig themselves out of a hole by saying "It's coming". They can't afford true HDR. And true HDR is more of a difference than UHD. But not for the Premier League as I think you've said. My opinion is it won't make much difference to live sports because of the lack of contrast. They've consistently lied to us for a couple of years and I genuinely have no idea why you continually avoid this issue

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I have to agree - live sport with HDR has always been the least attractive viewing for me. I've been lucky enough to test the DirecTV content, as well as the BBC trials, and none of them offer the same impact as other programming.

HLG and wildlife/nature programming, when done properly, is just stunning. 

The unfortunate thing with great HDR content is that not everybody will have the same experience as the capabilities of each TV is paramount... just because a TV 'does' HDR doesn't mean it does it well. 

[Aiden.]

If you use this url, this will allow you to check the IP of your sky Q box -  the url will show you the status of your box:
 
Type into your browser and substitute your own IP address.

http://192.168.x.xx:9006/as/system/information

Look for Hdr capable, will show as true or false.

[Rhonny]

@GreenLantern @PBS83

You've both lost me. I honestly don't know what argument you're referring to, and I've read back a couple of pages to try to understand before replying. I've barely said anything. Genuinely, are you sure you're not replying to someone else?

[GreenLantern]

Absolutely positive...I'm probably including however your past opinions on the subject also

[Rhonny]

@GreenLantern 

To summarise my position:

• I want HDR on Sky
• I have an old box so won't be able to get it. 
• I believe Sky will replace old boxes in good time. 
• I thought it wouldn't be coming until the end of the year as that's why Sky said.
• My real interest in HDR would be for football, regardless of whether it's true HDR or not
• The public at large don't know what HDR is. You can't use a few dozen people on here as an awareness test. 
• People will assume they should receive HDR but many will find they either have a non-HDR TV or a non-HDR Sky box, or won't have their TV set up properly for HDR.

That is it. I'm really not sure what I'm meant to have said to cause such discussion. 

[GreenLantern]

Spoiler

@Rhonny  Because of your bullet point number 5. I hugely disagree. Specialist TV shops are selling TV's on the back of HDR. Yes, I understand that they would do anyway to generate more margin but the public is catching on. Even the likes of Curry's is doing it. Walk into any tv shop now and they're streaming UHD HDR. But not from Sky. I bought my TV from a specialist TV retailer who told me Sky had been "caught out". I took that as "marketing" until I saw the difference. The difference is amazing. It's chalk and cheese. HDR is far more changeful than UHD. Really do believe your stance is one of ostrich and sand...

[PBS83]

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@Rhonny wrote:

@PBS83

To summarise my position:

• I want HDR on Sky
• I have an old box so won't be able to get it. 
• I believe Sky will replace old boxes in good time. 
• I thought it wouldn't be coming until the end of the year as that's why Sky said.
• My real interest in HDR would be for football, regardless of whether it's true HDR or not
• The public at large don't know what HDR is. You can't use a few dozen people on here as an awareness test. 
• People will assume they should receive HDR but many will find they either have a non-HDR TV or a non-HDR Sky box, or won't have their TV set up properly for HDR.

That is it. I'm really not sure what I'm meant to have said to cause such discussion. 

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Sorry but why are you directing this at me again? I've not mentioned you. 

People are discussing HDR in a thread about HDR, that's what's "caused such discussion" from me. Nothing to do with you. 

[MattA]

I have a 2TB box with an external power supply and I have HDR capable as false. Will there be an update before Wednesday?

[Rhonny]

@PBS83

You just agreed with that post stating I'd lost the argument, with me at'ed on it. Sorry to drag you in if you were simply replying to the poster.

I've edited to @@the right person.

Anyway, all too confusing. My brain has closed down.