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Discussion topic: UHD HDR on Sky Stream: A Real Problem

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This message was authored by Jayded This message was authored by: Jayded

UHD HDR on Sky Stream: A Real Problem

A few weeks ago, I made the switch to Sky Stream, after best part of a decade on Sky Q. This switch was an enforced one, due to the fact that it wasn't really feasible to cable up a Satellite dish in our new house. Overall, I am really pleased with the Sky Stream product and one of the big perks over Q was that you are not limited to UHD / HDR content on just your main box - all Stream Pucks can facilitate this content. 

 

However, there is a catch.

 

When watching Live Sky content in UHD (Sky Sports F1 UHD, Sky Sports Main Event UHD) it seems that Sky broadcast in HDR by default. This is resulting in a very dull and washed out image on my TV. This is really frustrating and really quite a drawback of the service - whilst the picture is undoubtedly crisp, it also looks very muted.

 

My TV is not an old model (Samsung Series 7 CU7100 65") and it handles UHD and HDR picture from other apps beautifully. It also handles Sky's on-demand UHD-only content beautifilly as well - the issue seems to be specific to HDR content.

 

After a bit of research, this seems to be a common problem for many Sky Stream subscribers. There also appears to be no way to disable HDR as a streaming preference, which is very frustrating - Sky Q had a feature to choose 8-bit or 10-bit, a choice which is not present on Sky Stream (which seems a real oversight).

 

Question for Stream subscribers: Does anybody know of a solution to this? If not, can anybody recommend a TV that can handle Sky's HDR broadcasts, short of an elite home cinema setup?

 

Question for Sky: Is it on the Product Roadmap to give Stream subscribers the option to disable HDR on Live Broadcasts? Because this would surely be the simplest fix?

 

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This message was authored by Nigelb1972 This message was authored by: Nigelb1972

Re: UHD HDR on Sky Stream: A Real Problem

Sky use HLG as their HDR format of choice as it was designed by BBC & NLK for life broadcast TV and delivers comparable, if not better results than HDR10 while using a lot less bandwidth. The downside is that not all TV's handle HLG particularly well and if your TVs NIT count Isn't very high. Sky UHD certainly isn't designed for high end home cinema systems at all, we have a 2 year old Samsung QLED which cost around £900 and handles HLG and Sky UHD beautifully. The stark reality is, that technology moves on. For reference, our TV is compatible with every HDR format including the elusive HDR10+ which only Amazon seem to support. The only one it doesn't support is Dolby Vision, which is a shame but the other pro's of the TV outweigh the lack of Dolby Vision compatibility.
This message was authored by mikealanr This message was authored by: mikealanr

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Hi @Jayded 

 

This is a customer helps customer community. Sky don't routinely respond to  post on here and they certainly don't release roadmap details. They only publish information on new features as they are about to be released.

 

MikeAlanR

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This message was authored by Mister_Dalek This message was authored by: Mister_Dalek

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@Jayded 

Try looking at some UHD content on your TV's built in iPlayer app - this will have HLG HDR too, the same type as Sky use. 
I have a 2018 Samsung NU7400 in my office which does a half decent job with HLG but only in a certain picture mode (Movie), with the contrast up at max and a few other settings tweaks. 
You may need to manually change the picture mode on your TV when viewing UHD HLG HDR content from Sky Stream, or get a more modern TV with a higher peak brightness level. 
I have a Panasonic OLED which offers all the HDR formats - HLG, HDR10, HDR10+ & Dolby Vision and once set up properly it produces astonishingly good results with all of them. Dolby Vision and HDR10+ from my Apple TV 4K box in particular is exceptional. 

This message was authored by Nigelb1972 This message was authored by: Nigelb1972

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I've been doing a Google and found that your TV appears to have a maximum NIT count of 1000. In comparison, most newer TV's are at least X3 this amount. 

I can only suggest having a tinker with your settings. 

This message was authored by defector16 This message was authored by: defector16

Re: UHD HDR on Sky Stream: A Real Problem

Changed to sky stream two months ago from sky q, changed tv as well from lg to Philips ambilight oled 808 with all hdr formats supported and Dolby vision, picture on all formats bright and clear, more so than lg tv.

This message was authored by Floydianslip This message was authored by: Floydianslip

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@defector16 what model of LG tv did you change from to the Philips?

This message was authored by Jason+Golding This message was authored by: Jason+Golding

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@Jayded @The issue is your tv I am afraid. It's a budget model with comparably low level of NITS (brightness). I have an LG OLED and UHD is excellent. Unfortunately HLG which sky use doesn't play nicely with low performing tv's. Not ideal 

Sky Stream x 2
LG C2 OLED 55inch
Sonos Playbar
Virgin 1 Gig
Virgin Stream Box
Xbox X
Apple TV 4K
Amazon 4K Firestick Roku 4K Google Chromecast
This message was authored by defector16 This message was authored by: defector16

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Model was lgc3 oled to Philips 808 both oled

This message was authored by Paulgoode This message was authored by: Paulgoode

Re: UHD HDR on Sky Stream: A Real Problem

I have the same problem with sky stream and hdr. When choosing a film you get the option of uhd/ hdr, uhd and HD

Which you had the choose when watching sky sports.

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