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Discussion topic: Additional Location Letter

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This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

Hi

 

Thanks for that suggestion, maybe Sky should have suggested this rather than continuing to hassle me without reason.

 

im retired, but having come from a technical background I do understand my network, many customers must also be paying the £26 without realising it, and perhaps not have the technical skills to even challenge it. 


I've provided them with so many screen shots, even the MAC address and serial number  of the Amplifi WiFi router which they can obviously see is connected into the Ethernet port on the Sky router.

 

There shouldn't be any confusion about IP addresses by Sky, the pucks will both be allocated IPV6 dhcp addresses in the range issued by the Sky router ? Yes their dynamic addresses may change as their leases expire, but surely Sky can see their MAC addresses. How would internally fixed up address's make any difference?

 

 

This message was authored by: TimmyBGood

Re: Additional Location Letter

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@DXPParagon wrote:

 

in my view Sky are using this as a profit generation centre.


No: it's an entirely sensible revenue protection process.  Previous platforms couldn't effectively be split, but with six pucks and three Glass televisions permitted on a single Whole Home subscription that's nine households which could run off one Sky subscription.

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Sky Glass 55" (on ethernet) & two Stream Pucks (one ethernet / one WiFi)
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

I understand their need to ensure that this isn't happening. However, as I've explained my setup to them now on four occasions I'm getting tired of effectively being branded a liar. 

Sky's response is "run all your devices on our WiFi network" then you won't have any further charges applied.

 

That ridiculous response fails to take into account that their inadequate WiFi network doesn't reach the top floor of my 3 story property, and that I have an existing Amplifi meshed WiFi network that covers every inch of my property, including my remote garden rooms and garages.

 

Maybe you can appreciate that I'm really tired of telling them the above, after hours of phone calls and emailed screen shots, photo's of my house and equipment etc, their continuing insistence that I should be paying an additional £26 per month is very wearing on my patience.

 

 

 

This message was authored by: Anonymous

Re: Additional Location Letter

"Maybe you can appreciate that I'm really tired of telling them the above, after hours of phone calls and emailed screen shots, photo's of my house and equipment etc, their continuing insistence that I should be paying an additional £26 per month is very wearing on my patience."

 

Im sure the abroad Sky agents aren't bothered about "wearing on your patience"... Their only concern is stopping people from breaking T&Cs and as you have sent as much evidence as you have and they still won't exempt you then it sounds like Sky have put you in a final position of either 1) Keep paying the extra £26 or 2) Leave

 

Sky must be very confident that you'll stick with 1) in this situation though by the sounds...

This message was authored by: lettice

Re: Additional Location Letter

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@DXPParagon 

 

Understand your frustration and from what I read of your posts above your network setup should be fine, once an excemption for your local network setup as it is, has been applied.

Ive asked in our closed community Superuser  area, if any further help can be progressed for you.

Hold fire and will report back what comes back from Sky.

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This message was authored by: Chrisee

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@DXPParagon it maybe a tad too obvious to be correct but have you tried switching all of the pucks to your Amplifi network?. I suspect the issue might being triggered by the having two different SSIDs. My own 3 pucks and Glass TV run off a third party WiFi system connected to a Sky hub and have never triggered a letter. As it happens the Deco system uses an old Sky SSID which belonged to an old hub and being idle I changed the SSID and password to save logging in multiple devices.

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This message was authored by: lettice

Re: Additional Location Letter

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@lettice wrote:

@DXPParagon 

 

Understand your frustration and from what I read of your posts above your network setup should be fine, once an excemption for your local network setup as it is, has been applied.

Ive asked in our closed community Superuser  area, if any further help can be progressed for you.

Hold fire and will report back what comes back from Sky.


Just heard back from Sky.

All you can in your case is to issue a complaint to asky to address this further.

Would suggest sending an email using the email link supplied here.

https://www.sky.com/help/articles/how-to-make-a-complaint

Detailing the calls you have previously had with Sky and what you have submitted to Sky for reference.

 

 

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This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

I'll leave.

 

My background is owning a telecom & IT provider. My fibre broadband is provided by Openreach but billed by Sky, I have numerous alternative provider options and I'm not driven by price, I want reliability and customer service.

 

The technical support staff I've encountered at Sky have actually been excellent and seem to have been genuinely trying to help, but they are obviously beholden to the "computer says no" department in the background, who I can't talk to directly.

 

Without exception all of them have agreed that the reasons provided for refusing me an exception by the anti fraud dictators, are pedantic at best.

 

I'll obviously have to ditch my Sky Glass device, but that constantly fails to wake from standby anyway and requires restarting, so that will not really be an issue, Frankly I'll be glad to see it gone.

 

My first few months of using the Sky pucks were also a nightmare, one puck was eventually replaced, and it took me to find the solution for continual sound and picture outages which ironically involved moving the device onto my non Sky WiFi network because their WiFi wouldn't provide decent signal albeit the router was 20 ft away through a single brick wall.

 

i subsequently extended the Ethernet cable that connected the Sky router to the Openreach fibre termination and moved their router slightly and achieved a better signal and moved that puck back onto the Sky WiFi as the signal is slightly better than my own .

 

But then they started sending me the "stop using your device at a different location" demands again.

 

 

The second puck I have installed on the third floor of my property is also hardly used, also ironic because this is the device they insist is being used at another property !

 

The first time I received the letter I spoke to tech support and they reversed the charge, it's been the subsequent three attempts to resolve the issue that have been continually rejected.

 

My Sky glass has actually got direct line of sight to the Sky router so gets a much better

signal from the Sky router than my Amplifi network, hence I've kept it running on their WiFi connection.

 

My previous experience with Sky was

using a dish, which apart from the occasional weather related incidents was largely trouble free.

 

i then moved to BT and later to Virgin when they extended their fibre network onto the Openreach poles running past my previous property.

 

BT and Virgin experiences were generally

positive during their tenure , my Virgin Gigabit fibre speeds were outstanding.

 

Virgins service does subsequently seem to have been destroyed by their merger/tie up

with 02/Telefonica. Sadly my view of Sky is now on a par with my view of Telefonica.

 

 

 

This message was authored by: Anonymous

Re: Additional Location Letter

Personally its my opinion that Skys services are purely designed for the average everyday customer running the average in home broadband and TV setup

 

They dont design their hardware/Services to be used with these overkill tech setups that the extreme minority try and incorporate into their houses

 

Connect your Sky hub, Connect your pucks/Glass to your hub and if you need a booster Sky will supply it

 

As you have found out, Ramming your home with as much broadband/wifi/networking rubbish ain't necessary... Infact it usually causes more problems than not... 

 

Just my 2 cents

 

 

This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

Two cents are worth next to nothing 

This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

Two cents are worth next to nothing.

 

 

This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate your support. I have already registered a complaint, I'm still waiting for a response to my latest conversation with the support team regarding that complaint. Big pond, little fish obviously.

This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

Thx 

It's a valid suggestion, I'm reluctant to implement this as it means that I'm then paying for a WiFi network device that is then entirely redundant, and I should be able to manage my internal networks as I see fit, not just to satisfy the Sky police 👍

This message was authored by: Anonymous

Re: Additional Location Letter

Reading your replies now makes me think your hoping for a reply from Sky directly on here but unfortunately you won't get it... This is a customer>customer forum

 

You said you were leaving but now your raising a complaint and staying as I suggested you might

 

Im starting to think this thread is more of a trolling session than a request for help 

 

You know what needs to be done to resolve the issue but keep posting pointless replies

 

Sky are within their right to charge the extra fee if you are trying to game the system... Something that's starting to appear likely to be the case from reading the entire thread

This message was authored by: DXPParagon

Re: Additional Location Letter

I've no expectations of Sky responding via this customer forum, but you do seem to be a surprising advocate for Sky policy ?

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