Is Sky TV downloads like a store and forward system?

[Chodley]

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@Tempo2 wrote:

Interesting.  Poles gone in parts where I live.  I had wondered what those 'sausage like' boxes were on some poles

thanks Tempo2

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Fibre to the property, whether underground or via poles, has been available for non-VM customers in many more areas than VM serve for about 10 years.  Openreach are rolling it (out at a snail's pace) across the country and local independents too although with the latter, which is what I have, I think you are tied to that ISP.

TV and broadband do not have to be provided by the same supplier but they usually give you a decent discount for bundling them.

But many people prefer the way Q works over Stream, per your local recordings comments, and while it uses the internet for on-demand and streaming apps, it does require a dish.

[TimmyBGood]

@Tempo2 

The national network provider simply isn't permitted to plan to leave households without broadband service.  There are going to be 80,000+ new FTTP activations every week between now and December 2026 to meet the 85% 'commercially viable' coverage target.

The remaining 15% of properties are distinctly harder to reach, and will require alternative methods  (primarily cellular with some satellite and long range wireless provision) or additional funding.

In the interim the copper network will remain in place: the scheduled PSTN switch-off is not the end of metallic circuits.

[Tempo2]

For situations, where telegraph poles have been removed, then the old ducts, from the poles, that used to connect to the system would still be there.  So these would be used to connect SKY services to the nearest fibre box?

Trying to understand the connectivity of broadband and TV (yes! I appreciate they are separate).   Would the SKY hub, with its Internet conncetion,  be near my PC and connected to it via Ethernet?   Its old and doesnt do WI-FI but is adequate for my needs. 

Then, either the hub or the PC? , again via Ethernet, connect to the router for WI-FI for the TV?  For a VOIP phone this would simply plug into the hub.

Thanks for verifying if I'm thinking on the right lines (or other wise 😁) 

Tempo2 

[TimmyBGood]

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@Tempo2 wrote:

For situations, where telegraph poles have been removed, then the old ducts, from the poles, that used to connect to the system would still be there.  So these would be used to connect SKY services to the nearest fibre box?

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FTTP doesn't use 'fibre boxes' (Openreach cabinets) : those are populated by copper cable 'phone' pairs, and the optical network has a completely different topology.  Ducts and poles remain relevant for both fibre backhaul and getting drop cable from local distribution points to individual properties, and will eventually have all the metallic circuits removed from them.

[TimmyBGood]

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@Tempo2 wrote:

  Would the SKY hub, with its Internet conncetion,  be near my PC

Not necessarily 

and connected to it via Ethernet?   Its old and doesnt do WI-FI but is adequate for my needs. 

That's outside the remit of the ISP

Then, either the hub or the PC? , again via Ethernet, connect to the router for WI-FI for the TV? 

Router to TV, but again up to the householder to sort out

For a VOIP phone this would simply plug into the hub.

A standard analogue handset or DECT base, not a VoIP phone.  It's the router which does the conversion.

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[nigea99]

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@Tempo2 wrote:

For situations, where telegraph poles have been removed, then the old ducts, from the poles, that used to connect to the system would still be there.  So these would be used to connect SKY services to the nearest fibre box?

Trying to understand the connectivity of broadband and TV (yes! I appreciate they are separate).   Would the SKY hub, with its Internet conncetion,  be near my PC and connected to it via Ethernet?   Its old and doesnt do WI-FI but is adequate for my needs. 

Then, either the hub or the PC? , again via Ethernet, connect to the router for WI-FI for the TV?  For a VOIP phone this would simply plug into the hub.

Thanks for verifying if I'm thinking on the right lines (or other wise 😁) 

Tempo2 

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hi @Tempo2 

It will all depend on whre the current fibre cables run to etc and what Openreach ducting is available. 

Most premises in my area do now have cable run close to their properties (although as I mentioned some of us also get our Fibre from flagpoles here instead although round the corner it is cabled underground to points by each premise)

SKY/Openreach would possibly need to assess

AFAIK Routers are usually placed near the fibre entry point - which I guess is likely to be similar to your VM box

SKY Q will connect either via wifi (probably most people's boxes do) or can be via ethernet.

VOIP dedicated phones  connect over wifi or ethernet. 

I think (but I don't know) that the latest  SKY routers have a socket (like my EE router has) to allow a non VOIP phone to be connected to it

You may get better answers by asking the internet/broadband/wifi questions in th boradband specific group