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Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:23 PM
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Upgrade query about full fiber
the long and short of it
I live with my in laws and I finally convinced them to upgrade to full fiber
my question is the outlets so there is 2 in the house one under where my work computer is and also where the router is but it's near the back of the house (think there might also be 2 others for phones)
would a typical upgrade to full fiber have the engineeer connect to them all or just one cause that might cause a bit of a problem overall namely with the whole work situation
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Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:32 PM - last edited: 09 Aug 2024 05:34 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
@Andrewb411 wrote:
would a typical upgrade to full fiber have the engineeer connect to them all
No: FTTP involves installation of an ONT, to which the ISP router connects over a supplied ethernet cable. All existing phone sockets become obsolete, and the installer won't link anything up to existing ethernet cable: the customer has to sort that out themselves.
With a target of 80,000 activations a week in the UK, realistically there's no time or budget for any particularly bespoke solutions.
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:32 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
Ultrafast doesn't use copper wires, it's a whole new fibre cable entering the building. A telephone then plugs into the back of the router.
Your entire exhisting phone wiring in the house will be redundant.
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:37 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
Okay so let me rephrase my question then in a default installation would they replace each one of them in one go or would they only do a singular outlet
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:39 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
@Andrewb411 Single outlet for what?
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Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:39 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
I shall rephrase to you also then my question should have been will they only install a singular outlet for which the new network runs to
or would do multiple to replace the ones which as you said would be obsolete
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:40 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
What exactly are you referring to by 'outlets'?
If those are phone sockets then they aren't involved at all, and stop working.
If it's ethernet then it's up to you to patch them into the Hub.
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:40 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
They will install 1 single open reach onto device.
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:41 PM - last edited: 09 Aug 2024 05:41 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
Important to note that FTTP installation doesn't aim to replicate what you have now, but faster. It's fundamentally different technology working on a new topology.
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:47 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
So as I understand it
currently my router is plugged into basically a phone outlet with a filter in it
they come along put in an ONT and test that it's functional
There is an open reach modem by the front door but it's not a full fiber one so I'm guessing they rip that out
the issue comes from the router being plugged into a phone socket on the wall in another room
would thet singuler change be enough to upgrade the house speeed over all or are we going to need to get them to connect up to new ports for which I then plug the ether from my router into
does thst
make more sense?
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:51 PM - last edited: 09 Aug 2024 05:53 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
@Andrewb411 wrote:
or are we going to need to get them to connect up to new ports for which I then plug the ether from my router into
We're saying that won't happen whether you want it to or not: it's simply outside the scope of the national FTTP rollout.
The ONT is the only external connection point, to which you attach the Sky Hub over ethernet cable (either the short one supplied or a longer one you source yourself)
All other internal network connections and telephone arrangements are up to you to resolve yourself or contract an independent professional to do so.
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 09 Aug 2024 05:58 PM
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Re: Upgrade query about full fiber
Once ultrafast full fibre is installed, all of your current phone and internet wiring inside the house will be disconnected from outside. (DEAD).
The only phone socket will be on the back of the router.
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