Discussion topic: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
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Message posted on 30 Dec 2024 10:57 AM
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Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
Sky and BT open reach have refused to install fibre broadband because we have an emergency call box (not connected to the internet) for my dad (wears a alarm button round his neck). I'm now stuck with half the wires hanging in my livingroom and damage to the outside rendering. Sky just fobbed me off, cancelled the order and told me to take it up with open reach! Why?! Ridiculous
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Message posted on 30 Dec 2024 10:59 AM - last edited: 30 Dec 2024 10:59 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
Presumably Openreach (it's not 'BT' in this context) were part way through FTTP installation when they identified the issue?
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 30 Dec 2024 11:01 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
Yes. They said the manager needed to complete the install and would be coming the same day. Didn't show up, now sky cancelled the order
Message posted on 30 Dec 2024 11:03 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
I even called the service while the engineers where here and they explained that the installation would not affect the box and if it did, they will fix it not open reach
Message posted on 30 Dec 2024 11:04 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
Unfortunately awareness on that whole topic is undergoing rapid change, and I suspect field operatives aren't well enough informed.
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 30 Dec 2024 11:09 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
But our call box is not connected to the landline. It has its own SIM card
Message posted on 24 Jan 2025 01:33 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
they've just done this to me... saying that it doesn't have any back and doesn't have a way to go through the router.... it doesn;t need to go through the router....
Message posted on 24 Jan 2025 07:45 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
@Mazz1 the alarm either needs a built-in sim or it uses the landline. With full fibre the landline switches to a digital service via the hub which is lost during power cuts. There a number of workrounds like a battery back up unit or leaving the copper line inplace but they require setting up. When you ordered the full fibre the agent should have asked questions sbout care alarms to avoid this problem.
65inch Sky Glass, 3 Sky Streaming Pucks, Sky Ultrafast + and Sky SR213(white Wifi Max hub) main Wifi from 3 TP-Link Deco M4 units in access point mode
Message posted on 24 Jan 2025 09:55 AM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
I had two supervisors from BT open reach come and install the wiring for the full fibre. They are aware of the box and agree that it does not connect with my phone line or broadband. Sky are now booked to complete the install next week (well it will be another BT Openreach guy) so hopefully I will be good to go! 🙂 it was a battle though to get it
Message posted on 13 Mar 2025 04:31 PM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
UPDATE: BT Open Reach refuse to install Fibre because Mum "Had a Healthcare Alarm button" even though I clarified with Care Co that as the new device is VOIP compliant they will not install fibre. Time to call on my Local MP? Bizarre. So I am cancelling my SK Subscription and will go to anyone else who can let me have fibre, total **bleep**. BT Open Reach need to wake up.
Message posted on 13 Mar 2025 05:13 PM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
@johnHipp wrote:Either way installation could be simple but older telephones may not work with the new modems, as they need to be VOIP compatible. I know of several people in my blind club who still have traditional wired telephones they rely on for communication with loved ones!
I don't think this is the case. My traditional wired phone now simply plugs into the back of the Sky router and works fine. It certainly isn't VOIP-enabled.
Message posted on 13 Mar 2025 05:59 PM - last edited: 13 Mar 2025 06:06 PM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
@johnHipp wrote:
Either way installation could be simple but older telephones may not work with the new modems, as they need to be VOIP compatible.
Analogue to VoIP conversion happens at the Hub: actual VoIP hardware (using ethernet or WiFi) won't work with Sky Talk Internet Calls
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 13 Mar 2025 06:01 PM - last edited: 13 Mar 2025 06:04 PM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
@johnHipp wrote:
UPDATE: BT Open Reach refuse to install Fibre because Mum "Had a Healthcare Alarm button" even though I clarified with Care Co that as the new device is VOIP compliant they will not install fibre. Time to call on my Local MP? Bizarre. So I am cancelling my SK Subscription and will go to anyone else who can let me have fibre, total **bleep**. BT Open Reach need to wake up.
Unfortunately every Openreach ISP is in the same position because they are petrified of cutting off a vulnerable user by going against current Ofcom advice, and facing the wrath of certain newspapers who have decided that the cessation of analogue telephony is a herald of the end times. Ironically your MP is almost certainly being bombarded with complaints about the 'forced' change to fibre....
BT Halo 3+ Ultrafast FTTP (500Mbs), BT Smart Hub 2
Message posted on 18 Jul 2025 04:00 PM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
Just had the same problem I live in flat for over 55s put in to sky to upgrade sky broadband, management say it is completely compatible with the on call system installed ? But Sky say no they won't install. Many other residents have successfully upgraded to full fibre with no conflict, but I'm guessing there not with SKY, they just won't listen,
Message posted on 18 Jul 2025 04:24 PM - last edited: 18 Jul 2025 04:25 PM
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Re: Refused to install full fibre due to having emergency fall call box
@Emperor4 It's not that they do not listen, just look at the very first pinned post top of the Forum. People have actually died and the main stay off Full Fibre was jumped upon as the straight out No1 reason even if it was not.
There are a lot off Red flags, and anyone off them then automatic NO say's the computer!
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