Mandatory to use Sky Hub with FTTP?

[ireworks]

I have Sky Fibre To The Premises with an Optical Network Terminal in my property, connected to a Sky Hub. I also have a Netgear RAXE300 router that I would like to use in place of the Sky Hub.

- When connected as ONT >  Sky Hub, the internet connection works.

- When connected in double NAT with ONT > Sky Hub > Netgear, the internet connection works.

- When connected as ONT > Netgear, the internet connection does not work

    - This initially worked for ~24 hours before the internet connection was no longer availablet. I assume that this is some kind of device policy enforcement on Sky's end after detecting the Sky Hub is no longer connected?

 have tried in the Netgear router settings:

- VLAN Tagging: update VLAN ID to 101 with priority 0 to mimic the tag of the Sky Hub

- MAC Address cloning: Cloned the MAC address of the Sky Hub on the Netgear router

Are there any other settings or configurations that I can apply to get my desired setup of ONT > Netgear to have an internet connection?

[TimmyBGood]

@ireworks 

It's not mandatory, but Sky themselves won't offer any help and Sky Talk Internet Calls cannot function through such hardware.

[TimmyBGood]

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@ireworks wrote:

This initially worked for ~24 hours before the internet connection was no longer availablet. I assume that this is some kind of device policy enforcement on Sky's end after detecting the Sky Hub is no longer connected?

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No, that doesn't happen.  It's much more likely that the Netgear received one of its own firmware updates and this messed something up.

[cuke]

Could it be that the Netgear RAXE300 doesn't support Opt61? A few years ago, when I wanted to use a third party router I found that the only Nighthawk that supported Opt61 was the RAX70. The support for Opt61 is rather haphazard with Netgear products.

[Chrisee]

@ireworks you need to use one of the two authentication methods Sky use in the UK

The simplest is DHCPv6 PD which most routers support and works in 80% of Openrea ch lines and 100% of City Fibre lines

If tha tvd oesn't work use DHCPv4 Option61 with a string of the form anything@skydsl|anything which I think most Netgear r outers support and works on 100% of Sky lines support.

[cuke · Accepted solution]

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@Chrisee wrote:

@ireworks you need to use one of the two authentication methods Sky use in the UK

The simplest is DHCPv6 PD which most routers support and works in 80% of Openrea ch lines and 100% of City Fibre lines

If tha tvd oesn't work use DHCPv4 Option61 with a string of the form anything@skydsl|anything which I think most Netgear r outers support and works on 100% of Sky lines support.

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I went through the RAXe300 manual and there is no reference to Opt61, https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RAXE300/RAXE300_UM_EN.pdf whereas the RAX70 has. As stated the support for Opt61 is haphazard with Netgear routers and even variations of the same model may not include this. I did my research on this when purchasing a RAX70, which I still have

[ireworks]

Thanks for confirming this @cuke. After posting, I found another thread where you'd pointed the missing Option61 for this model.

Thanks to everyone else for responding.

I've setup the Hub as a gateway towards the Netgear router in the DMZ - a bit superfluous but would appear to be the only method of not having a double NAT situation while getting the use of the Netgear router on Sky.