Sky Glass is Not a Good Television (Not my words)

[tarbat]

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@LGUser wrote:
How can you have an HLG wrapper on HDR10? Is there anyplace to read about this?

You can't. Sky will likely use a 3DLUT to convert HDR10(PQ) to HDR(HLG).

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@LGUser wrote:
Also, is there anyplace to read about Sky's HDR10 production guidelines? 

This is what we refer to : https://static.skyassets.com/contentstack/assets/bltdc2476c7b6b194dd/bltf35286bd85eb0068/5a7b18f5fca...

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[d2h]

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@LGUser wrote:

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@d2h wrote:

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Sky's production guidelines stipulate all content - whether in-house production or third-party licensed - is delivered in PQ - HDR10. 

None of their on-demand content is native HLG. 

How can you have an HLG wrapper on HDR10? Is there anyplace to read about this? Also, is there anyplace to read about Sky's HDR10 production guidelines?

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They place flags to ensure hardware is capable of HLG even when HLG isn't in use. See third-party apps like Netflix, Disney+ etc. - you can only view their HDR10 content provided your TV passes the HLG check. 

Regarding their on-demand downloads, they simply put the HDR10 file through conversion so it flags as HLG. There's no reason other than continuity with their live HLG content that they can't just offer on-demand downloads in their original HDR10 format. 

The only document in the public domain can be viewed here. 

[d2h]

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@tarbat wrote:

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@d2h wrote:
Sky's production guidelines stipulate all content - whether in-house production or third-party licensed - is delivered in PQ - HDR10.

And despite their production guidelines saying that they'll conform HDR10(PQ) content to HLG at 1000cd/m2, they decide to manufacture a TV with peak luminance of around half that value. Crazy?

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It's quite remarkable. They're well aware of what's required to experience their own content in the best possible way but I honestly believe they lost focus on picture in favour of too much emphasis on sound. 

It strikes me that they almost forgot the picture aspect and found it was an after thought... by which point, it was probably too late... and here we are today. 

[Martin-uk]

On some (most?) programmes the adverts aren't even there (eg Dexter). So a great step for me.

[LGUser]

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@tarbat wrote:

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@d2h wrote:
Sky's production guidelines stipulate all content - whether in-house production or third-party licensed - is delivered in PQ - HDR10.

And despite their production guidelines saying that they'll conform HDR10(PQ) content to HLG at 1000cd/m2, they decide to manufacture a TV with peak luminance of around half that value. Crazy?

Maybe Sky should grade their HLG content on a Sky Glass TV to ensure optimum picture quality on Sky Glass 😉 

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Um...No. I don't want dull HLG on my TV. 🙄

If it'strue that Sky is wrapping HDR10 in HLG, drop the wrapper. All HLG TVs have HDr10.

[LGUser]

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@Martin-uk wrote:

On some (most?) programmes the adverts aren't even there (eg Dexter). So a great step for me.

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Programs in UHD do not have any adverts.

[d2h]

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@LGUser wrote:

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@Martin-uk wrote:

On some (most?) programmes the adverts aren't even there (eg Dexter). So a great step for me.

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Programs in UHD do not have any adverts.

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Let's see if that stance is maintained once the £5 ad-skipping charges are able to commence. 

[LGUser]

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@d2h wrote:

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@LGUser wrote:

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@Martin-uk wrote:

On some (most?) programmes the adverts aren't even there (eg Dexter). So a great step for me.

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Programs in UHD do not have any adverts.

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Let's see if that stance is maintained once the £5 ad-skipping charges are able to commence. 

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If Sky started putting in adverts for UHD programs, there would be a rather large outcry. I've been with Sy Q just over 3.5 years and not a single advert with UHD.

[d2h]

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@LGUser wrote:

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@d2h wrote:

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@LGUser wrote:

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@Martin-uk wrote:

On some (most?) programmes the adverts aren't even there (eg Dexter). So a great step for me.

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Programs in UHD do not have any adverts.

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Let's see if that stance is maintained once the £5 ad-skipping charges are able to commence. 

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If Sky started putting in adverts for UHD programs, there would be a rather large outcry. I've been with Sy Q just over 3.5 years and not a single advert with UHD.

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I've been with Sky since the launch of Sky Digital in 1998 but that doesn't count for much. The fact is that a £5 per month charge is incoming next year for Sky Glass customers. Comcast are very, very ad-focussed... and the fact that UHD has no ads means it's ripe for exploitation. I will be amazed if there's any on-demand content untouched in order to claim £5 on top.