HBO is not a replacement

[PandJ2020]

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@badgerz wrote:

Sky MUST lower the price of Thier sub

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I think it's safe to say that won't be happening.

If you're not happy with the changes the increase mail explained the option to leave without early termination.

[GD1]

@badgerz  As you're still within the cool off preriod why not cancel if you feel you aren't getting value for money?

[badgerz]

I'd prefer sky to do something to show they understand we are losing so much 4k content.  Ive been stuck in bed for 12 months now (awaiting a double lung transplant) so my wife i I moved a few debts about so I could afford sky t.v so I finally have something decent to keep me occupied. Then sky gives half of the good stuff back and  want more money. And all I get told is why not leave? What I want is sky to appreciate how much this changes things for everyone, write a statement make us feel they care , not to hide behind all the share holders....sorry superfans.. and do something other than an ad based apology 

[Timelord2018]

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@DaveDrizen wrote:

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@PandJ2020 wrote:

@DaveDrizen Yes, but the point is a Sky UHD sub no longer gives you UHD for that content...  of course you can pay extra (to HBO) but devalues the UHD Sky sub.

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That is right you have to think as the HBO max and your Sky tv as two independent subscriptions. Sky is only taking any subscription money on behalf of HBO max and with the Sky deal giving you basic with ads as extra  as I said in my previous post even payment for HBO max ( if you have a subscription other than the free one) is taken separately and you have to pay by card via the Sky market place. But other than that two services are independent of each other. You can not expect you Sky subscription UHD to give you on HBO max you have subscribe to HBO max for it.  The same applys to the Netflix and Disney plus apps .  if you want UHD on them you also have to subscribe to the relevant pack on those services. The only one when you  get UHD included is if you  subscribe to TNT sport you get Channel 493 TNT ultimate in UHD with you Sky UHD add on, and I don't think there is any extra charge using theHBO max app to view either. Other then tha the sky tv UHD add on for sky Tv channels only .  To sum it up Game of thrones in UHD is no longer part of the Sky tv channels package as they no longer have the rights to show it that format  and gone to a different provider there for you have to pay there subscription to get it. And by the look of it HBO max is only showing old Game of thrones programming at present any way, so the new content is not yet available on there yet and not sure when will be. So it cant be seen UHD or any other mode any time soon.

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This isn't accurate 

[badgerz]

We have still lost A LOT of content to hbo. No matter which way sky paint it , we are now getting less than we did. So sky need to fix this.  A free app with ads in hd to replace the same content we had AD free in 4k is not a replacent. It's not even the same pitch. So sky.... Your move 

[PandJ2020]

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@badgerz wrote:

 So sky need to fix this. 

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I refer you to my previous answer.

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So sky.... Your move

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No, yours...  You can upgrade your HBO tier should you wish.

[Mark39]

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@PandJ2020 wrote:

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@badgerz wrote:

 So sky need to fix this. 

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I refer you to my previous answer.

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So sky.... Your move

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No, yours...  You can upgrade your HBO tier should you wish.

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Or cancel, as Sky suggested, and find a provider that gives you everything you want (and the moon is made of blue cheese....)

[DaveDrizen]

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@PandJ2020 wrote:

@DaveDrizen Yes, but the point is a Sky UHD sub no longer gives you UHD for that content...  of course you can pay extra (to HBO) but devalues the UHD Sky sub.

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Sky no longer have the right to show that content in  UHD and therefor is no longer available on the Sky platform, it beyond Sky control. The rights have been taken back by the makers of that content and decided to put on there own  platform HBO max is completely independent of Sky  and has own packages and pricing. The only connection Sky have with HBO max is a  deal they have made to give Sky customers discounted  of the HBO max service and collect hbo max  subscription on there behalf.  In fact all the app on the Sky Q box are run third party's and Theresa a extra to you Sky tv subscription. In some sky have stuck deals with they which result in cheaper prices Sky subscribers and act as agent for payment to the relevant app..You say it devalues the UHD Sky  sub but in time there will be possably other content made available UHD on sky that will replace it . If you are unhappy with the value of the Sky  UHD add on you can cancel and get HBO one instead 

[badgerz]

So sky answer is take money off them and give it to hbo

...least I know your not corporate.  Bit I like the way you think.  I should have stuck with my fire stick

[DaveDrizen]

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@badgerz wrote:

So sky answer is take money off them and give it to hbo

...least I know your not corporate.  Bit I like the way you think.  I should have stuck with my fire stick

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If you mean Sky are taking money off Sky subscribers, the only money are taking is the subscription to use the relevant app in this case HBO max. Sky are only acting as a agent to HBO max to collect there subscription on there behalf and pass it to them.The money. If you use the app on your fire stick and pay direct HBO max direct you will get the same service and packages but it will cost you more  as you won't get discounted priceing that Sky have negotiated for there.  subscribers. I have taken advantage of the Sky deals in the various apps but I view them in my firestick it cheaper then paying direct. You could do the same. Lot of company do it. I have subscription for pure vidio  and now tv and payment is taken by Apple and Amazon respectively like Sky that are only acting as agents to take my subscription and pass it on them.

[oj01]

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@badgerz wrote:

So sky answer is take money off them and give it to hbo

...least I know your not corporate.  Bit I like the way you think.  I should have stuck with my fire stick

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I'm assuming that you didn't read the T's and C's of the contract you agreed to?

[badgerz]

Besides the point. Anyways I hear this hbo move is about to hit trading standards or who ever deals with it due to it undervaluing everything.  Until then your all right... I'm still in my cooling off period , and after talking g to a few people on here I get why people do leave. [Removed]

Moderator notes: Removed foul languge 

[Nabeelish]

It looks like a lot of uhd content is not available on sky either, for example game of thrones, then the movies that are uhd like one battle after another no longer support dolby vision. This is very sneeky as it was not told to customers. 

[JimmyT4]

The broader point is that, as Sky loses subscribers, it has to charge more and more for the same, or less, content. That's why they can't afford to pay HBO enough to keep it exclusive. But they pay HBO less, give us less, and still increase our sub fees. Yep, I still want Sky, but every year it becomes less and less attractive. At some point their entire business model will fail.

[TimmyBGood]

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@JimmyT4 wrote:

That's why they can't afford to pay HBO enough to keep it exclusive.

The current management of Warner Bros Discovery Ltd made it abundantly clear they were never going to renew the previous exclusive arrangement with Sky Atlantic because that was preventing the launch of Max in a significant market (Sky Television subscribers being a minority of UK viewers)

At some point their entire business model will fail.

Linear television is undergoing significant change globally but Sky Group is also the second largest UK ISP and a major cellular provider, even before considering its ownership by an American corporate giant.

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