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@Chrisee wrote:

Whether this counts as a tech review is debatable butvthis has just gone up on the T3 site https://www.t3.com/reviews/sky-glass-review


Since it kicks off with a Sky Glass deal button, it's as uncritical as you would expect.

 

"The Sky interface is just so good."

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@Chrisee wrote:

Whether this counts as a tech review is debatable butvthis has just gone up on the T3 site https://www.t3.com/reviews/sky-glass-review


That reads like less of a review and more of a paid-for promotion. 

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Don't T3 reviews always have links to where you can buy ? For any of their reviews. 

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I think some on here are only going to believe negative reviews because of their issues with Glass.

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Crikey, that T3 review is nothing more than a fluff piece.

 

In one sentence it's the 'best TV you can buy', in the next the 'picture isn't great'.

 

Even one of the screenshots has a gap in the playlist!

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I thought THIS was a decent well balanced review of where Glass is today...

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@sceptic101 wrote:

I thought THIS was a decent well balanced review of where Glass is today...


Agreed. Pretty much nails it.  

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@sceptic101 @fizzdisco 

 

I thought so too.

 

Verdict

 

Sky Glass is all about convenience. Its streaming system and built-in soundbar removes bundles of cables, boxes and the dish. But while its software and service show lots of promise, it is has bugs and small annoyances, most on-demand apps are slow and clunky, and there are extra hoops that must be jumped through to get to content that make it less convenient to use.

 

I have no doubt updates will fix many of the issues. But the reliance on terrestrial catchup services and their limitations may always be worse than old-school recordings . If you only ever watch live TV or content hosted directly on Sky’s platform or Netflix, Glass is great.

 

The screen is decent but not spectacular, competing best with lower priced mid-range sets. The sound is great unless you want a real cinema experience, and the remote is great too. The price is tempting when bought monthly, although you must add the cost of the Sky service on top.

 

Glass is a work in progress with an enormous potential yet to be realised.

 

Pros: no satellite or box needed, great sound for a TV, responsive and logical interface, good remote, voice search is fast, unified search helps you find content across a range of services, support for most UK streaming services, long service life and software support.

 

Cons: no local recording, reliance on terrestrial catchup services disappointing, some things only available live, bugs, motion sensing doesn’t work, voice control unreliable, uneven backlighting, auto-brightness is poor, no game or low lag mode, no Chromecast or AirPlay.

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@sceptic101 wrote:

I thought THIS was a decent well balanced review of where Glass is today...


Yes, that's a fair review although not a comprehensive one. There is no mention of the puck performance so the reviewer presumably wasn't sent one. Sky's reticence presumably explained by the near universsal condemnation of the puck performance in the forum reviews here. So that's a whole new can of worms he wasn't able to flag up.

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@sceptic101 @fizzdisco 

 

I thought so too.

 

Verdict

 

Sky Glass is all about convenience. Its streaming system and built-in soundbar removes bundles of cables, boxes and the dish. But while its software and service show lots of promise, it is has bugs and small annoyances, most on-demand apps are slow and clunky, and there are extra hoops that must be jumped through to get to content that make it less convenient to use.

 

I have no doubt updates will fix many of the issues. But the reliance on terrestrial catchup services and their limitations may always be worse than old-school recordings . If you only ever watch live TV or content hosted directly on Sky’s platform or Netflix, Glass is great.

 

The screen is decent but not spectacular, competing best with lower priced mid-range sets. The sound is great unless you want a real cinema experience, and the remote is great too. The price is tempting when bought monthly, although you must add the cost of the Sky service on top.

 

Glass is a work in progress with an enormous potential yet to be realised.

 

Pros: no satellite or box needed, great sound for a TV, responsive and logical interface, good remote, voice search is fast, unified search helps you find content across a range of services, support for most UK streaming services, long service life and software support.

 

Cons: no local recording, reliance on terrestrial catchup services disappointing, some things only available live, bugs, motion sensing doesn’t work, voice control unreliable, uneven backlighting, auto-brightness is poor, no game or low lag mode, no Chromecast or AirPlay.


@TimmyBGood  Out of interest is "game mode / low lag mode" something that could be added later with a software update, I seem to remember an old Samsung of mine that had a game mode update down the line.

 

I find ok when playing through my Xbox, no noticeable lag, but just wondering if enough ask could it get added?

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@M3rk wrote:


Out of interest is "game mode / low lag mode" something that could be added later with a software update, I seem to remember an old Samsung of mine that had a game mode update down the line.

I don't think so: it's almost certainly not a panel/chipset that can run at 120Hz, even though the HDMI ports are specified as HDMI 2.1

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But a game mode isn't beholden to 120hz is it ..? Lol I don't know ....I've had TVs / monitors with game mode and only 60hz.

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I'll be reviewing mine, check out WNDTECH on Youtube thank you.

 

Firstly it's not a sponsored video, so i can say what the hell i like about it, and what i don't like, and the list of don't likes is growing by the day.

 

Cheers.

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@M3rk wrote:

But a game mode isn't beholden to 120hz is it ..? Lol I don't know ....I've had TVs / monitors with game mode and only 60hz.


No it isn't. Game Mode is just a generic lable anyway as it's dependant on the hardware capabilities of the TV.

 

The most important thing for a gaming TV (although even this is dependant on what type of game it is) is input lag. This is the delay between your input and the actual result onscreen. Multi player games will be especially affected as on a poorly setup TV you could be behind what everyone else sees onscreen.

 

The easiest way to reduce lag is to turn off all image processing which can be done manually. Some stuff however needs better hardware, especially the screen.

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@M3rk wrote:

But a game mode isn't beholden to 120hz is it ..? Lol I don't know ....I've had TVs / monitors with game mode and only 60hz.


ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) is included in the HDMI 2.1 specification (but may also be found in HDMI 2.0 sets if the manufacturer chose to include it).  As @Anonymous indicates, it also has to be supported in the rest of the television in order to actually do anything.

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