BBC London SD closes in ireland with no date for return in HD?

[johnnooo]

This is on your CHANGE TO SKY FEB 2023 - 

• ​BBC One London SD ROI closes at 954 in Ireland. 

So why is this happening?  we prefer to watch London as a regional bit of BBC tv instead of N.I. so if you are Closing it in SD , when are you going to open it again in HD ? Or are you stripping us of watching because "we're not londoners" ?? who cares where you're from. Its a better channel to watch regional news to me and also it sticks on match of the day earlier when there;s some rubbish N.I programme going on too late..

[Daniel0210]

@johnnooo 

All the changes to BBC channels listed for change / cancellation are BBC's decision and nothing to do with Sky, so you need to direct your frustration at the BBC. 

[TimmyBGood]

@johnnooo 

https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/articles/2022/BBC-One-HD-rollout-England 

[nolte]

Bbc's decision 

You can complain to the bbc via https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints

[Anonymous]

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@johnnooo wrote:

This is on your CHANGE TO SKY FEB 2023 - 

• ​BBC One London SD ROI closes at 954 in Ireland. 

So why is this happening?  we prefer to watch London as a regional bit of BBC tv instead of N.I. so if you are Closing it in SD , when are you going to open it again in HD ? Or are you stripping us of watching because "we're not londoners" ?? who cares where you're from. Its a better channel to watch regional news to me and also it sticks on match of the day earlier when there;s some rubbish N.I programme going on too late..

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I suspect the reasoning why BBC One London SD closed and was not replaced by BBC One London HD in Ireland is because the Red Button functionality is not available in Ireland and a duplicate channel without Red Button data has to be made available for Ireland.

There are Ireland duplicates of BBC One NI HD, BBC Two NI HD, BBC Three HD/SD, BBC Four HD/SD, CBBC HD/SD, CBeebies HD/SD that don't have Red Button data.

I suspect that with the eventual remove of all BBC SD channels next year and that not having BBC One London HD in Ireland is a "cost-saving measure" for the BBC.

The agreement with BBC and RTÉ on Sky is that if RTÉ One and RTÉ2 are available in Northern Ireland, BBC One and BBC Two are available in Ireland (and vice versa). BBC Three, BBC Four, CBBC, CBeebies are additional channels from the BBC (provided at BBC's discretion), with TG4 being an additional channel in Northern Ireland. 

So the BBC are fulfilling their agreement by having BBC One NI HD and BBC Two NI HD available in Ireland. BBC Two HD (Eng & Wales) (previously on 347), BBC Two  SD (Eng & Wales), BBC One HD (Generic) and BBC One London SD were provided in Ireland at the BBC's discretion.  

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You can manually tune in BBC One London HD if you wish. 

All BBC regional channel frequency are available here:
https://www.tvchannellists.com/w/Master_list_of_satellite_television_channels_(United_Kingdom_and_Ir...

BBC One London HD frequency as on site: 10818 V DVB-S2 8PSK 23 3/4

This translates to: 

Frequency: 10.818

Polarisation: V

Symbol Rate: 23.0

FEC: 3/4

Standard: DVB-S2

Modulation scheme: 8PSK

To manually tune a channel on Sky Q: 

1. Press the HOME button
2. Use the DOWN button to scroll to SETTINGS
3. Press SELECT (middle circle button with dot)
4. Use the DOWN button to scroll to MANUAL TUNING
5. Press SELECT
6. If required, use the DOWN button to scroll to ADD A CHANNEL
7. Press SELECT and use the NUMBER PAD to edit the Frequency.
8. Press SELECT to confirm your changes
9. Use the DOWN button to scroll to Polarisation
10. Press SELECT and choose the relevant polarisation
11. Press LEFT once when chosen.
12. Repeat steps 9 - 11 for Symbol Rate, FEC, Standard and Modulation scheme.
13. Use the DOWN button to scroll to FIND CHANNELS
14. Press SELECT.
    Display will change to "Searching for channels..."
    A list of channels should appear (If one gets "No channels found!", check the frequency settings.)
15. If required, use the UP and DOWN buttons to find "BBC One Lon HD"
16. Press SELECT.
    A checkmark should appear beside channel. 
17. Use the DOWN button to scroll to SAVE CHANNELS.
18. If required, use the DOWN button to find BBC One Lon HD.
19. Press SELECT to view.

To get back to BBC One London HD:
Repeat steps 1 to 5 and 17 to 18 to watch. 

[johnnooo]

jaaaaeus h christ TattedPupper

,you should be working for MI5 mate... thats very detailed..and impressive...I will certainly giveit a go, but i've got doubts there aint some block still going on, but will try it at weekend...thanks for that detailed reply... good luck 

[TimmyBGood]

@johnnooo 

BBC channels carried on satellite are not 'blocked'.  Their appearance and position in an EPG is controlled by both the reception platform and Ofcom/BAI regulation, but that's different.

[Anonymous]

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@johnnooo wrote:

jaaaaeus h christ TattedPupper

,you should be working for MI5 mate... thats very detailed..and impressive...I will certainly giveit a go, but i've got doubts there aint some block still going on, but will try it at weekend...thanks for that detailed reply... good luck 

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BBC channels are free-to-air. This means that any satellite receiver (that's pointing to the correct satellite, like the one Sky uses) can receive it. There is no block/encryption on it. An example of a channel with a block would be the likes of Sky Showcase where one needs a Sky Viewing Card/subscription to view it. 

Also, all ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 channels and more are free-to-air. So while they are not on the EPG in Ireland, they can all be manually tuned in. All this channels can be found on the link I provided.

Also, the reason why it's so detailed is because I am writing it assuming one has never done this before. Also, in my first year of college (uni) many years ago, I did a module called "Problem Solving and Programming Concepts", which helps to detail instructions. 

[johnnooo]

thanks for that mate...and previous. take care..