Looking to upgrade to full "fibre"

[phootheman]

Guys

Odd one BT can give me 900mbs at my address but my Sky account will only offer 500?? Also on upgrading it's saying I will need an engineer visit.  now is this for them to come inside the house or outside access 

[TimmyBGood]

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@phootheman wrote:

now is this for them to come inside the house or outside access 

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Moving from a copper to an optical connection requires the running of an entirely new cable into the property, so yes, both external and internal work is required.

[phootheman]

Cheers sounds like a hassle... What does it consist of?

Is it the phone line into the house 

[TimmyBGood]

@phootheman 

The clue is that it's full fibre (i.e. no existing copper 'phone' line is involved).

A new four-core optical cable is brought from the nearest distribution point, either above or below ground, to the outside of your property where it ends at a Customer Splice Point (small Openreach plastic enclosure).

At the CSP an single-core optical pigtail is fusion-spliced to a drop-cable core: this pigtail is then brought inside your property, typically via a newly drilled hole, and plugs into an Openreach  Optical Network Terminal (which requires a mains socket to power it).  The Sky Broadband Hub connects to the ONT over ethernet cable.

Once an FTTP connection is place your master phone socket (and any internal phone extension wiring) is obsolete.  'Landline' voice calls are made from a handset plugged into the Sky Hub.

[TimmyBGood]

@phootheman 

" What’s Involved in an Openreach FTTP Full-Fibre Broadband Installation? " 

[phootheman]

Thanks for that... I don't use the sky hubs haven't done for over 15 years. I use my own routers.

Will this be a issue.? Could I just let them set it up then plug my own in. 

[TimmyBGood]

@phootheman 

A router for FTTP has to have both an ethernet WAN port and compatibility with the Sky network (which you'll find widely discussed in other posts).  Any router you are currently using for a VDSL broadband service (which inherently involves the use of a 'modem' to connect to a copper 'phone' line) may well not have ethernet WAN capability.

[TimmyBGood]

@phootheman 

Also note that there's no known method of not using a Sky Broadband Hub while still retaining the availability to have Sky Talk voice calling at the address (because that requires the ATA built into the Hub)

[phootheman]

Thanks.

WOW!! what a lot of hassle.. 🙄 

[Chrisee]

@phootheman at some point in the future Openreach will take the copper network out of use entirely already thry have stopped taking normal orders for copper products at around 300 exchanges so we all will have to transition at some point or use mobile networks.. 

Fibre is far more reliable and speeds do not vary due to length of the line so it is in the most part an acceptable trade off. The potential loss of the landline is increasingly unimpportant to many users but you can always useca third party router behind a Sky hub with minimal impact - double NAT ionly causes issues on a few apps etc. - if you definitely need thst option.

[phootheman]

I have a separate router connected via lan to supply the front of my house hard wire...

I take it this will not change 

[TimmyBGood]

@phootheman 

Hopefully an ethernet switch rather than a router, but no, there isn't any need to change such an arrangement.

[phootheman]

Just a router set up as a wireless hub with the lan connection from my main router. 

[TimmyBGood]

@phootheman 

A switch and an access point is preferable (unless the router has a dedicated AP mode) otherwise you're splitting the network and creating a double-NAT.  However, if it works for you then there's no need to change anything if you do get FTTP.

[phootheman]

Yes on paper you wouldhace thought but no restrictions at all, all is open 👌