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Man who could afford to no doubt would. All about tying people down to screw as much cash out of them as possible.

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About time in this day and age there were more options. As many cant stand the BBC or its crappy content imo.


Avoiding the BBC doesn't avoid the need for a TV licence.

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 All about tying people down to screw as much cash out of them as possible.


Nope: all about funding a state broadcasting service without direct taxation.  While this model might just about survive the current Charter renewal, given the Government seems a bit tied up with other things, I suspect it will be for the last time.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/16/bbc-licence-fee-to-be-abolished-in-2027-and-funding-frozen 

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@Mark39 Read original post - I cover this.

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And as we also covered exhaustively in the subsequent thread, the BBC, together with an associated funding mechanism, was created by a (Conservative) Government a century ago and it's within the remit of (any) Government to fundamentally alter this, or even destroy the BBC entirely, if it can get a majority to do so.  As part of this Government mandate a regulated broadcast platform such as Sky cannot choose to offer a package which does not include Public Service channels even if it wanted to: that's kind of the definition of 'Public Service Broadcasting'.

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The license fee should only be payable if you actually watch BBC, Watching other channels should not incur the fee.

 

One way to help with the cost of living crisis is to abolish the license fee now.

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One way to help with the cost of living crisis is to abolish the license fee now.

 


Which would kill the BBC unless it's switched to a direct taxation model.  While some MPs might be prepared to vote for that, I suspect most wouldn't particularly want it on their record.

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@LGUser wrote:

 

One way to help with the cost of living crisis is to abolish the license fee now.

 


Which would kill the BBC unless it's switched to a direct taxation model.  While some MPs might be prepared to vote for that, I suspect most wouldn't particularly want it on their record.


IMHO, BBC has a lot of resources that they don't actually need and can do away with. But yes, it's time the BBC fee model goes away especially sice a lot of people are struggling due to the cost of living.

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@LGUser wrote:

 

One way to help with the cost of living crisis is to abolish the license fee now.

 


Which would kill the BBC unless it's switched to a direct taxation model.  While some MPs might be prepared to vote for that, I suspect most wouldn't particularly want it on their record.


IMHO, BBC has a lot of resources that they don't actually need and can do away with. But yes, it's time the BBC fee model goes away especially sice a lot of people are struggling due to the cost of living.


Except the license fee pays for far more than just the BBC. A lot of BDUK funding, for the rollout of superfast broadband to many parts of the country, came from it, for example. 

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IMHO, BBC has a lot of resources that they don't actually need and can do away with


I suspect the BBC knows rather more about their business than you do....

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But yes, it's time the BBC fee model goes away especially sice a lot of people are struggling due to the cost of living.

You can choose to believe that if you wish, but ultimately it would be what Sir Humphrey would describe as a 'courageous decision' for any Government to propose and enough MPs to support, and realistically I just don't think there's the political will to do so.

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@LGUser wrote:

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IMHO, BBC has a lot of resources that they don't actually need and can do away with


I suspect the BBC knows rather more about their business than you do....


As long as BBC is getting our money, they can have as many services as they can afford. What I'd like to know is what would BBC drop if the license fee was dropped.

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What I'd like to know is what would BBC drop if the license fee was dropped.

Let's drop the best News coverage on the planet.  That's what random individuals shouting on Twitter is for, right?

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@Mark39 wrote:

@LGUser wrote:

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IMHO, BBC has a lot of resources that they don't actually need and can do away with


I suspect the BBC knows rather more about their business than you do....


As long as BBC is getting our money, they can have as many services as they can afford. What I'd like to know is what would BBC drop if the license fee was dropped.


They'd have to focus on the content which attracted the greatest advertising advertising revenue - so BBC4 would be dropped, along with a lot of the less popular, but very interesting content on the other BBC channels. Local radio would either have to accept advertising, or close, which would have a big impact on sections of the community.

 

Of course, if the BBC started attracting the big name advertisers, especially in shows like Strictly, that would have a negative impact on all the other commercial channels, reducing their revenue and ability to supply content.

 

BBC R&D would either close or switch to a closed licensing model. So no development of shared technologies like HLG, for example.

 

 

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What I'd like to know is what would BBC drop if the license fee was dropped.

Let's drop the best News coverage on the planet.  That's what Twitter is for, right?


I highly disagree that BBC has the best news coverage. BBC can be pretty biased at times. STV has better local news. And Sky is less biased.

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