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This message was authored by IanPJones This message was authored by: IanPJones

Sky Broadband FTTP - Router keeps reseting

Hi,

I’ve got this problem with my new Sky Ultrafast service and have had since I had it installed 5 long, long weeks ago…

 

In short the Sky router, every 2-4 hours, resets itself -the ethernet, Wifi and phone lights go from green to not lit at all and the power light goes red. It then restarts itself one light at a time. As I said this has been happening every 2 – 4 hours since I had the service installed.

So essentially, I have an intermittent broadband service and a basically unusable phone service (phone calls drop out due the reset etc).

 

As you can imagine I’ve been on to Sky about this quite a bit. I will say that every sky person I’ve dealt with has been kind, patient and sympathetic and keen to help me resolve the problem. Unfortunately, depending on who you get when you ring up, the awareness of issues like mine are not spread evenly throughout the support staff (some of heard of similar problems, many haven’t) and I always find myself having to explain the problem every time I ring up and we have to go through the same troubleshooting steps that I have repeated innumerable times before.

So currently:

  • I’ve had 14 calls (always initiated by me) with Sky on this issue.
  • 1 sky engineer visit
  • I’m on my 4th Sky Router (SR203 model)
  • I’ve had OpenReach out 3 times – they’ve changed their modem, tested the line etc and are adamant that it is not them causing the issue (which I tend to agree with as the dropping out of the broadband connection shouldn’t cause the router to reset – I’ve sort of proved this to myself by simply unplugging the cable from the ONT to the router and unsurprisingly it doesn’t cause the router to reset).

We have tried every obvious trouble shooting thing you can reasonably think of:

  • Power direct into a wall socket (the power brick is usually supplied via a UPS I have to ensure the ONT, Router and Sky Q tv unit stay up)
  • Power into a wall socket on the other side of the room
  • Power into a wall socket in a different room
  • New cables between the ONT and the router
  • Soft and hard router resets (soft being just press the reset button and let go, hard being hold the reset button in for 10 seconds and let go) and have ensured the latest firmware is installed on all the routers I’ve had.

 

Now I should at this point probably talk about what I have attached (wired and wirelessly) to the router:

 

  • On the wireless side I have a doorbell camera and various phones, ipads, laptops and Echo devices.
  • On the wired side I have a pre-existing wired ethernet system that consists of a Synology NAS, 7 IP cameras, the main Sky Q tv box, 2 TVs, an Xbox, a Sonos Playbar, an Arlo Camera base station, 1 PC and 1 Laser printer. These devices are spread throughout the house and I have cabling  that runs from room to room (outside) and at each entry into a room there is a simple Netgear switch that distributes to the devices in that room (TV, Sky Q and Playbar in the living room, the PC and the Printer in the spare bedroom etc.). I should point out that this wired network has been working for years without fault when it was connected into my (non FTTP) Sky Q router before I moved over the new FTTP Sky Router. I’m not an expert on networking but over the years I’ve managed to set up and run my wired network without too much problem (for example I have made sure that it is the Sky router that is assigned as the DHCP server and all the other devices are set to receive a DHCP address, that the IP ranges are ok etc).

So I have a more extensive wired set up than some but nothing too dramatic (IMHO).

Anyway I’ve doing as much trouble shooting as I can from this end and have come to the conclusion that the router can’t handle running this modest wired setup. I say this as because I have tested the router without any devices attached (using wifi only) and the router ran for over 24 hours without falling over. In a fit of excitement I then attached the router back to the wired network (by connecting into the nearest network switch in the room) and the router fell over about 2 hours later. So I then began the worlds slowest game of whack-a-mole and resorted to plugging in only 1 device (directly by moving the NAS next to the router) and it fell over in about 6 hours. So then I tried connecting 2 other devices in instead (the tv and the playbar) and it too fell over a few hours later. So far I haven't found one consistent device that, when connected, is the source of the resetting.

 

Yesterday things got even worse as the voice service would not come back on after it tripped and reset itself. I did both hard and soft resets but to no availabe - still no voice service. So again I rang up sky this mornging. The conversation did not, unfortunately, fill me with much hope. The guy seemed first to be convinced it must be an OpenReach issue and I had to spend 20 minutes demonstrating that it wasn’t. He then variously suggested that:

 

  • More than 3 wired devices connected to a router is very unusual and maybe I simply had to many devices attached.
  • The switch I was connecting the router into was likely faulty (even though when I had previously bypassed the switch and plugged things in directly it still fell over).
  • Just because my wired network worked when attached to old router doesn’t mean it should work on the new FTTP router as it’s a different technology (which just seemed rubbish to me as if anything the old router was effectively a wifi access pont, ethernet switch and a modem whereas the new router is only a wifi AP and ethernet switch device and I really doubt the ethernet switching technology in the new router is much different to the old one).
  • I plug everything back in again and if it falls over again that proves it is the switch that is the problem (I failed to follow the logic on that one tbh).

So we’ve left it that I will plug, directly into the router, a few devices and he’ll call back tomorrow afternoon to see if it has fallen over yet. Where we go from there, I’ve no idea.

 

To be honest I’m at my wits end on this - having had to reset the wifi on every wireless device in the house 4 times due to the router changes, having to reconfigure the survelliance package on the NAS everytime I do a reset due to the IP cameras being given new IP addresses etc - it's exhausting after a while.

 

I am seriously thinking of asking for the service to be cancelled and that I then move over to another provider – probably BT as at least then I can provide my own router if needed as I’m convinced that the current Sky router / firmware is the source of my troubles.

 

Any thoughts/comments appreciated.

 

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This message was authored by simon194 This message was authored by: simon194

Re: Sky Broadband FTTP - Router keeps reseting

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Here's something to try but may not sort out the problem.

 

Log on to the router and go the the Advanced -->  WAN setup page and change the Router Mode option to "WANoE Only". By default it's usually set to "Auto".

 

I had something similar happening when my SR203 was connected to a separate modem and the Router Mode was set to the default "Auto" option.

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This message was authored by IanPJones This message was authored by: IanPJones

Re: Sky Broadband FTTP - Router keeps reseting

Thanks @simon194 I'll give it a go.

This message was authored by Hikiwari This message was authored by: Hikiwari

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Did this suggestion work @IanPJones ?

I have a problem where the connection to my PC keeps dropping - maybe three times a day. It's actually hardwired to a TPLink powerline soccket that has worked perfectly before. Our internet connection drops then re-connects 45 seconds or so later. Very annoying. Spoken to Sky multiple times, had replacement router and an engineer visit. Nothing changed although the engineer did say that our Ring cameras could be the cause. Were you told this?

We don't have a landline phone plugged in.

This message was authored by TimmyBGood This message was authored by: TimmyBGood

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@Hikiwari 

 

Is that on FTTP, G.fast or FTTC?  There's a particular potential incompatibility between G.fast and Powerline hardware.

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This message was authored by IanPJones This message was authored by: IanPJones

Re: Sky Broadband FTTP - Router keeps reseting

Hi @Hikiwari ,

 

Unfortunately it didn't help. I haven't had the advice about the Ring doorbell (though mine is on wifi not hardwired and wifi doesnt seem to cause me a problem). In the end I've given up and will be switching to BT to see if their router is any better.

This message was authored by Hikiwari This message was authored by: Hikiwari

Re: Sky Broadband FTTP - Router keeps reseting

Thank you @TimmyBGood I think I now need to talk to TPLink to see if they can help. I'm grateful for your help.

 

Thank you @IanPJones It may well be the way that I go too. I have more investigating to do.

 

Cheers. 

This message was authored by jamesn123 This message was authored by: jamesn123

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@Hikiwari 

Not likely TP-Link can do anything. Due to the similar frquencies, Powerline adapters & G.Fast often just dont work together without casuing internet drops.

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This message was authored by Hikiwari This message was authored by: Hikiwari

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@jamesn123 Thanks but what actually is a Gfast?

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@Hikiwari 

G.Fast is technology used to deliver your broadband service, however it depends on which package you  have. Do you know what service or speed you are paying for?

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This message was authored by cookiemonsteruk This message was authored by: cookiemonsteruk

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@Hikiwari 

 

G.fast is a 150 Mbps variant of ultrafast delivered through the copper telephone line as opposed to full fibre which is fibre to your premises

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This message was authored by Hikiwari This message was authored by: Hikiwari

Re: Sky Broadband FTTP - Router keeps reseting

OK, thanks. So I have my computer in my front room and my router 45 meters away in my hall with a brick wall inbetween which means I only get 2 or sometimes three bars of WiFi. Not enough to have a seemless working day of internet use. Drives me nuts.

How else am I going to get internet connectivity?

A Sky engineer came around and blamed my Ring security cameras. 

Dell say it's not their problem (although this never happened before my recent hard drive change)

Microsoft say nothing to do with them

MY ISP says not their issue.

WTH am I supposed to do??

 

Any suggestions gratefully received. Cheers

 

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@Hikiwari 

- Get WiFi boosters

- Move the hub closer

- Run an ethernet cable

- Buy a stronger router

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This message was authored by TimmyBGood This message was authored by: TimmyBGood

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@Hikiwari wrote:

I have my computer in my front room and my router 45 meters away in my hall with a brick wall inbetween


Certainly not the responsibility of Sky/Dell/Microsoft or any ISP: their remit does not extend to coping with the physical environment of anyone's dwelling place*.

 

You're looking at instigating the kind of solutions that @jamesn123 suggests or employing someone else to do so.

 

You can think of it in the same way as mains power and water: up to the point they arrive at your address that's the domain of a much larger business but inside your house you need an electrician, a plumber, or suitable DIY skills ; )

 

 

*apart from the very limited 'guarantee' of  low-speed wireless coverage offered on premium broadband subscriptions by some ISPs, which actually only a guarantee there will be no additional monthly cost if coverage is not possible.

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This message was authored by Hikiwari This message was authored by: Hikiwari

Re: Sky Broadband FTTP - Router keeps reseting

☹️ Thanks for your replies but none of this is very positive is it? Sounds like I'm stuffed.

 

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