Constant pin request

[Show+me+the+fibre]

Does anyone know why we have to constantly enter our pin to watch programmes like the Simpsons on sky one? I can understand adult rated programmes before the watershed but the simpsons is surely not affected by that? All my parental settings are correct, it seems to mostly happen with sky one. 

[TimmyBGood]

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@Show+me+the+fibre wrote:

I can understand adult rated programmes before the watershed but the simpsons is surely not affected by that?

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It appears that individual Simpsons episodes vary between U, PG and 12, with 12 triggering Mandatory Daytime Protection no matter what Parental Control settings are in effect: that's a requirement of the Broadcasting Code.

12 rating becomes more common after Season 10 (1998-99): there's a (very incomplete) listing based on DVD rating here:

https://simpsonswiki.com/wiki/List_of_episodes_by_BBFC_rating 

[TimmyBGood]

@Show+me+the+fibre 

And some BBFC information here:

https://www.bbfc.co.uk/release/the-simpsons 

[ZyloKai]

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@Show+me+the+fibre wrote:

Does anyone know why we have to constantly enter our pin to watch programmes like the Simpsons on sky one? I can understand adult rated programmes before the watershed but the simpsons is surely not affected by that? All my parental settings are correct, it seems to mostly happen with sky one. 

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On pay television service like Sky, there is a mandatory PIN required for programmes rated 12s or 15s broadcast outside the hours of 9pm and 5:30pm on all channels (paid and free-to-air). This is required by Ofcom and cannot be turned off, regardless of parental settings. 

[TimmyBGood]

@ZyloKai 

I suspect it's the semi-random age rating for individual Simpsons episodes even within a season which causes particular confusion.  Recent outings are roughly 50/50 between PG and 12, and it's quite difficult to discern where the crossover point actually is.

[ZyloKai]

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@ZyloKai 

I suspect it's the semi-random age rating for individual Simpsons episodes even within a season which causes particular confusion.  Recent outings are roughly 50/50 between PG and 12, and it's quite difficult to discern where the crossover point actually is.

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If one watches The Simpsons on Channel 4/E4, some parts in episodes are censored or removed, so it can remain the PG rating. Sky does not censor The Simpsons on Sky Showcase.

An example of why The Simpsons may get a 12 rating is the Treehouse of Horror XIX episode where Krusty gets shredded by a wood chipper. The video segment is available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/RdSHimmu5Yc?si=fzPTJi4T9MAcBCrI .

In the Channel 4/E4 version,  the video from 1:23 to 1:40 is removed. This is when Krusty's remains are visible and Homer gets the heart and tries to pump it, then closes Krusty's eyes on a detached head. This is left in on the Sky Showcase version, hence the 12 rating. 

Many other instances like this exist where Channel 4/E4 censor The Simpsons. This is why sometimes the Simpsons start a few minutes later than its original time of 6:30pm (when it was on Channel 4).

[TimmyBGood]

@ZyloKai 

Treehouse of Horror episodes are clear enough (and probably shouldn't be viewed by children at all) but it's the variation in regular episodes which I find more interesting: the difference between 'mild' and 'moderate' 'drug references', for example.

[ZyloKai]

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@ZyloKai 

Treehouse of Horror episodes are clear enough (and probably shouldn't be viewed by children at all) but it's the variation in regular episodes which I find more interesting: the difference between 'mild' and 'moderate' 'drug references', for example.

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Unfortunately, neither you or I can say what is rated 12 or PG, that's down to Sky (on Sky channels), other broadcasters & Ofcom.

[TimmyBGood]

@ZyloKai 

BBFC or some other external ratings agency, I think, rather than the broadcaster.

[ZyloKai]

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@ZyloKai 

BBFC or some other external ratings agency, I think, rather than the broadcaster.

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You're being a bit pedantic. But I mean in the context of this conversation; Sky and broadcasters have the responsibility to label their programming correctly with the correct rating. 

[Stickinfohere]

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@ZyloKai wrote:

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@ZyloKai 

BBFC or some other external ratings agency, I think, rather than the broadcaster.

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You're being a bit pedantic. But I mean in the context of this conversation; Sky and broadcasters have the responsibility to label their programming correctly with the correct rating. 

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Please treat everyone with respect. 🙂

[ZyloKai]

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@Stickinfohere wrote:

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@ZyloKai wrote:

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@ZyloKai 

BBFC or some other external ratings agency, I think, rather than the broadcaster.

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You're being a bit pedantic. But I mean in the context of this conversation; Sky and broadcasters have the responsibility to label their programming correctly with the correct rating. 

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Please treat everyone with respect. 🙂

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Absolutely. It was not meant in a negative way. I was saying to Timmy that his point was received. I could've been nasty and said it differently.