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This message was authored by: Spasmcasm

Puck Not Holding LAN Connection

Hi,
Had SKY Streaming for a couple of months and initially had the new toy burst of enthusiasm which over the last couple of months has worn off and I've found issues I can't resolve.
On our second puck which has the same issue as the original.
So, we're unable to connect the puck to routher via an enthernet cable because of the house configuration. We originally connected via wifi, but had issues with lip synching. Our broadband is 100-150meg.
We couldn't resolve the lip synch issue so eventually sky sent an engineer to the house to test the connections, speeds and wifi performance. His advice was to hardwire the puck to a sky wifi extender which he supplied. (The white hexagonal type) Our routher is a new white one as well. He was happy with all connection speeds.
We were sent an uprated ethernet cable by sky and we connected the puck to the extender. We then went to settings and turned the wifi off. We then changed the connection mode to ethernet and eventually it found the connection and gave an IP address.
All seemed fine, the lip synch issue went.... Happy days.
Then, after turning it off and going to bed, next day turned it back on and the puck does not pick up the ethernet connection. It defaults back to wifi and when you go into settings, the wifi has been turned on.
Because it's still hardwired, you then get the blue screen of death where it says there is no connection. Going into settings shows wifi turned on and no connection. It does show an ethernet IP address but it doesn't connect.
The sky engineer said he thought the puck was faulty and to request a replacement, which we've received, but nothing has changed. The new puck doesn't pick up the ethernet signal  either. The engineer tried a hard reboot with the ethernet cable connected and it found the connection and worked, but again, as soon as you turn it off for the day and then turn it back on next day it doesn't connect to anything, settings show the wifi turned back on and IP adresses for both wifi and ethernet. It just goes back to the blue screen saying no connection.
What am I doing wrong? (If anything!)
It seems the puck won't default to ethernet despite having wifi turned off and connection preference being ethernet....
TBH, SkyQ was much easier to navigate, was much more intuitive and was proven. It seems to me that sky are just learning as they go with this technology, It's hugely annoying. SKY have been helpful but cannot resolve this.

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This message was authored by: TimmyBGood

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@Spasmcasm wrote:


We were sent an uprated ethernet cable by sky and we connected the puck to the extender.

 


I'd imagine that's an unfortunate interaction between Stream and a Max pod.  I've found Stream works very well on 'real' ethernet cabled back to the router.

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This message was authored by: Spasmcasm

Re: Puck Not Holding LAN Connection

Unfortunately, because of concrete floors, room configuration and where open reach put the incoming white box we can't physically get the router anywhere near the puck. The engineer advised ethernet to the booster was the only option.

We can get a WiFi connection but it's unstable and leads to lip synch issues.

This message was authored by: Nigelb1972

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@Spasmcasm can you not run a long ethernet cable?

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This message was authored by: Spasmcasm

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No, it's impossible.

The puck needs to do what it's told and remember it!!

This message was authored by: Jporch316

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Have you tried powerline adapters ? 

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Re: Puck Not Holding LAN Connection

No, the sky engineer said their own boosters were as good as any and will provide all the signal I need.

The issue is that the puck keeps reverting to a WiFi connection not the ethernet connection, even though you turn the WiFi off in settings it defaults back to it when turned off and then back on.

Thanks for the suggestion though 👍

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@Spasmcasm Sky have a policy not to recommend powerline adapters quite why has never been explained but is probably linked to ssues with early Q boxes which had a primitive powerline capability built-in Sky never supported. However these adapters  do work in the vast majority of homes and are likely to be a better solution than your current lash up. The newer adapter use all three conductors and when plugged into wall socker=tsxshould deliver at least 30% of their rated speed. 

If you do decide to try thisxalternative buy the kit online as then you haave 14 days to send them back if they don't work in your home. 

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This message was authored by: lettice

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Just to clarify, you are doing the following.

 

Not, turning the power off to the puck overnight. It is not wise to power off the Puck overnight as this is when it receives firmware, app, UI and OS updates.

Just let it drop to standby mode with the remote.

 

When doing the ethernet switch and turning wifi off, make sure you then do the restart from settings. This ensures, you keep the wifi off setting. A power restart may not do it.

Also, before doing the restart, change the following settings:

Set Network standby mode to ON and Overnight power saving is OFF.

 

So,

From a puck startup.

Remove your ethernet cable. Plug it back in, get an ip address.

Toggle on and off the wifi option.

Do the network standby and overnight power saving settings changes.

Go to Settings>Systems Management>Resets & Updates

Select Restart device.
Your Sky Stream puck will perform a reboot. It will take a few minutes to complete.

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This message was authored by: Spasmcasm

Re: Puck Not Holding LAN Connection

Thanks!
I've done all those things apart from the reboot from settings.
I'll give that a go and let you know!
Thanks!!

This message was authored by: Pompey+Lad

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I have the exact same symptoms on 2  sky pucks, however my puck is cat6 cabled back to a 1Gb router. Taking a speed test on the cable connected to the puck I get 900mbps. DHCP on my router issues addreses perfectly to >100 network connections only these 2 devices misbehave & I've tried everything advised in this thread.

 

Is tgere an engineer menu? Could fixings the IP overcome the problem?

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@Pompey+Lad wrote:

I have the exact same symptoms on 2  sky pucks, however my puck is cat6 cabled back to a 1Gb router. Taking a speed test on the cable connected to the puck I get 900mbps. DHCP on my router issues addreses perfectly to >100 network connections only these 2 devices misbehave & I've tried everything advised in this thread.

 

Is tgere an engineer menu? Could fixings the IP overcome the problem?


@Pompey+Lad 

The Stream Puck only has a 10/100 network port, the max it can take is 100 mbps (though you'll probably only see circa 80-90 mbps).

What speed are you getting when you run the speed test via Netflix (using the app on the Stream Puck)?

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Nice feature, unknown to me. 79.25Mbps

This message was authored by: lettice

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@Pompey+Lad wrote:

I have the exact same symptoms on 2  sky pucks, however my puck is cat6 cabled back to a 1Gb router. Taking a speed test on the cable connected to the puck I get 900mbps. DHCP on my router issues addreses perfectly to >100 network connections only these 2 devices misbehave & I've tried everything advised in this thread.

 

Is tgere an engineer menu? Could fixings the IP overcome the problem?


That would be impossible to get 900Mbps via Ethernet as the Sky pucks ethernet only has a 10/100 port as mentioned above.

The max speed you would expect using Ethernet with a cat 5 cable or above, would be about 90Mbps, which is fine for a Sky Stream puck  to work efficiently, depending on how busy your local network bandwidth is.

 

To see the speed your puck is receiving, do a network speed test on your Pucks.
Launch Netflix on your pucks (you do not need to be logged into it, if you do not use netflix) and scroll down the left menu to Get help.
Choose Check Network.
Would suggest running the test a few times, say a few minutes between tests.

 

If using ethernet, make sure you change your pucks to the following recommended settings set in the Puck Settings

Turn wifi OFF under Network if connected via ethernet.

Set Network standby mode to ON and Overnight power saving to Off..

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@Pompey+Lad wrote:

I have the exact same symptoms on 2  sky pucks, however my puck is cat6 cabled back to a 1Gb router. Taking a speed test on the cable connected to the puck I get 900mbps. DHCP on my router issues addreses perfectly to >100 network connections only these 2 devices misbehave & I've tried everything advised in this thread.

 

Is tgere an engineer menu? Could fixings the IP overcome the problem?


If you have decent wifi coverage why not switch to using wifi ? 

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