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This message was authored by: Marlu-Nyu

UK not connecting with Saturday Night Live UK?

The audience figures for Saturday Night Live UK are dropping every week. It seems the UK doesn't really like SNL UK, if the viewing figures are anything to go by:

SNL UK:
Episode 1: 226,000 overnight*
Episode 2: 205,000 overnight*
Episode 3: 130,100 overnight*
Episode 4: 120,000 overnight* 

or

Episode 1: 3.2% of audience share**
Episode 2: 3.2% of audience share**
Episode 3: 1.8% of audience share**
Episode 4: 1.6% of audience share**

or

Episode 1: 528,000 for 7 days***
Episode 2: 507,200 for 7 days***
Episode 3: 430,600 for 7 days***
Episode 4: 371,100 for 7 days***

(* Viewers watching live or up to 2am on first broadcast day)
(** Viewers watching live)
(*** Viewers watching within first 7 days of first broadcast)


If we take the very popular The Traitors on the BBC for comparison:

The Traitors:
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Series 1 had 3.74 million viewers, on average, per episode
Series 2 had 6.91 million viewers, on average, per episode
Series 3 had 9.32 million viewers, on average, per episode
Series 4 had 11.63 million viewers, on average, per episode

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With the Saturday Night Live UK episodes themselves, they don't seem to be received well by the audiences. However, I think, maybe, just maybe, the sketches on their own may work on social medias.

I’m not sure Sky and SNL Studios will renew it for a second series, but what do you think?

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I really don't think it is a good comparison to compare to The Traitors.

 

Bear in mind that Sky one has a lot lower available audience then compared to The Traitors being on BBC 1 (which everyone has access to)

 

If every other show was compared to The Traitors performance,  most of other shows would be cancelled.

 

Some reports suggest SNL UK does better in that time slot compared to previous programming on sky one, but again these comparisons are flawed

 

Anyway I've enjoyed most of the episodes so far (jack whitehall was the one I didn't like). 

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Personally I wouldn't watch either of them, as they are both formats I particularly dislike.

 

Give me a documentary about an obscure Blues musician, or a rerun of Nothing to Declare, and I'm happy.

 

That's the joy of having choices.

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@Marlu-Nyu wrote:

The audience figures for Saturday Night Live UK are dropping every week. It seems the UK doesn't really like SNL UK, if the viewing figures are anything to go by:

With the Saturday Night Live UK episodes themselves, they don't seem to be received well by the audiences. However, I think, maybe, just maybe, the sketches on their own may work on social medias.

I’m not sure Sky and SNL Studios will renew it for a second series, but what do you think?


I think this - I've never in all my years of pouring over guide data (which is a long time!) seen such desperate scheduling as this.

Sat 9th May - Sky Comedy:

23:30-00:45 - Saturday Night Live UK s1e7

Sun 10th May

00:45-02:00 - Saturday Night Live UK s1e7

02:00-03:15 - Saturday Night Live UK s1e7

 

That's the same episode of the same programme, three times, back to back!

 

You simply can't force people to watch something just showing it over and over. Make it good and people will watch. Don't do it this way. Maybe it's a misguided attempt to mop-up accidential viewing figures when people fall asleep with it on. But the desperation is right there on the page.

 

The only other time I've ever seen the same thing showing 3 times back to back is part of a joke (Groundhog day on Sky Movies annually). 

 

I was absolutely gobsmacked to see this, and it had me shaking my head in sheer disbelief, but it wasn't even a mistake, it's been repeated each week. To me, that says it all.

 

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This message was authored by: Angel_Aka

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Overnight viewing figures are less and less important in the TV industry. It's all about the consolidated catch up ratings/views over 28 days. It's particularly difficult with SNL because viewing is split between Sky One on Sky's own platform and on NOW. Personally, I know more people who watch on NOW than on Sky, so it's tricky to know if they're including full viewership from both. 

 

I would imagine that a decision on a second season won't come until they've got the full 28 day figures from the final episode so it'll likely be later next month. 

 

It's tricky to know what Sky's perspective on this will be. I would say that overall the feelings around SNL UK have improved greatly as the weeks have progressed. It's getting a lot of press. A lot of positive press. This is great for the show, the cast, the writers and the SNL brand. But I don't think it's doing anything much for Sky itself.

 

Are subscriber numbers shooting up as a direct result of SNL UK? No. Most of the sketches are being clipped up and put on the official Sky SNL UK YouTube channel, and that's where they're being viewed the most. Sky can make a bit of money from this channel, but not as much as they would if every YouTube viewer signed up to a new 24 month Sky Ultimate subscription on Stream.

 

Personally I think Sky will absolutely commission a second season - they'd be foolish not to. If they don't keep a hold of the brand then it will immediately be snapped up by another channel or streamer. It's become hot property, not among most of the middle-aged and above readers of this forum, but among the larger, more lucrative younger market. A bit of a different marketing approach for season 2 and it could begin to help increase Sky subscribers.

 

SNL UK will be around for a while yet... on Sky or elsewhere.    

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@nolte wrote:

I really don't think it is a good comparison to compare to The Traitors.

 

Bear in mind that Sky one has a lot lower available audience then compared to The Traitors being on BBC 1 (which everyone has access to)

 

If every other show was compared to The Traitors performance,  most of other shows would be cancelled.

 

Some reports suggest SNL UK does better in that time slot compared to previous programming on sky one, but again these comparisons are flawed

 

Anyway I've enjoyed most of the episodes so far (jack whitehall was the one I didn't like). 


@Angel_Aka wrote:

Overnight viewing figures are less and less important in the TV industry. It's all about the consolidated catch up ratings/views over 28 days. It's particularly difficult with SNL because viewing is split between Sky One on Sky's own platform and on NOW. Personally, I know more people who watch on NOW than on Sky, so it's tricky to know if they're including full viewership from both. 

 

I would imagine that a decision on a second season won't come until they've got the full 28 day figures from the final episode so it'll likely be later next month. 

 

It's tricky to know what Sky's perspective on this will be. I would say that overall the feelings around SNL UK have improved greatly as the weeks have progressed. It's getting a lot of press. A lot of positive press. This is great for the show, the cast, the writers and the SNL brand. But I don't think it's doing anything much for Sky itself.

 

Are subscriber numbers shooting up as a direct result of SNL UK? No. Most of the sketches are being clipped up and put on the official Sky SNL UK YouTube channel, and that's where they're being viewed the most. Sky can make a bit of money from this channel, but not as much as they would if every YouTube viewer signed up to a new 24 month Sky Ultimate subscription on Stream.

 

Personally I think Sky will absolutely commission a second season - they'd be foolish not to. If they don't keep a hold of the brand then it will immediately be snapped up by another channel or streamer. It's become hot property, not among most of the middle-aged and above readers of this forum, but among the larger, more lucrative younger market. A bit of a different marketing approach for season 2 and it could begin to help increase Sky subscribers.

 

SNL UK will be around for a while yet... on Sky or elsewhere.    



Additionally, I added the overnight, 7 day consolidated, as well as the audience share to get the full picture or the performace of SNL UK. My point was to show how a poor performing programme like SNL UK can be compared to something that is incredibly popular like the Traitors.

But I understand your points, so let's take the example of The Last of Us, that was broadcast on Sky Atlantic, which is a channel that only Sky customers have (or had? Did it change?), meaning even less viewers than Sky One.

The Last of Us got, on average, 3.075 million viewers (7-days consolidated) per episode for series 1. SNL UK is still performing poorly with a pitiful 375,725 viewers (7-days consolidated), on average per episode (based on the first 4 episodes). 

(One can go to SNL UK's Wikipedia page and go to the Reception section to get the sources for the figures)

Additionally, this part "Most of the sketches are being clipped up and put on the official Sky SNL UK YouTube channel", I did specifically say: "However, I think, maybe, just maybe, the sketches on their own may work on social medias".

I do think that SNL UK as a television programme is just not feasible in the UK, based on the poor performance and  I don't think it will see a series 2. I think they could just record indevidual sketches on their own and put them up on YouTube/TikTok, etc. on reels etc. 

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@Marlu-Nyu 

 

I do wonder if they would actually have been more successful launching without the SNL branding which really doesn't mean very much in the UK (and, as I think I've mentioned before, has only occasionally been funny in the US ; )

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@Marlu-Nyu wrote:

@nolte wrote:

I really don't think it is a good comparison to compare to The Traitors.

 

Bear in mind that Sky one has a lot lower available audience then compared to The Traitors being on BBC 1 (which everyone has access to)

 

If every other show was compared to The Traitors performance,  most of other shows would be cancelled.

 

Some reports suggest SNL UK does better in that time slot compared to previous programming on sky one, but again these comparisons are flawed

 

Anyway I've enjoyed most of the episodes so far (jack whitehall was the one I didn't like). 


@Angel_Aka & @nolte:
Additionally, I added the overnight, 7 day consolidated, as well as the audience share to get the full picture or the performace of SNL UK. My point was to show how a poor performing programme like SNL UK can be compared to something that is incredibly popular like the Traitors.

But I understand your points, so let's take the example of The Last of Us, that was broadcast on Sky Atlantic, which is a channel that only Sky customers have (or had? Did it change?), meaning even less viewers than Sky One.

The Last of Us got, on average, 3.075 million viewers (7-days consolidated) per episode for series 1. SNL UK is still performing poorly with a pitiful 375,725 viewers (7-days consolidated), on average per episode (based on the first 4 episodes). 

 

You can't really compare the viewing figures of a high profile, glossy and expensive HBO drama series with a live Saturday night comedy sketch show. They are different genres, appealing to different demographics. 


(One can go to SNL UK's Wikipedia page and go to the Reception section to get the sources for the figures)

Additionally, this part "Most of the sketches are being clipped up and put on the official Sky SNL UK YouTube channel", I did specifically say: "However, I think, maybe, just maybe, the sketches on their own may work on social medias".

 

They're generating a lot of chatter on YouTube. But that doesn't benefit Sky in any great way. Remember, YouTube is gaining in popularity. It's more popular than ITV is these days, in terms of overall viewership. 


 

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@Marlu-Nyu wrote:

@nolte wrote:

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You can't really compare the viewing figures of a high profile, glossy and expensive HBO drama series with a live Saturday night comedy sketch show. They are different genres, appealing to different demographics. 


(One can go to SNL UK's Wikipedia page and go to the Reception section to get the sources for the figures)

Additionally, this part "Most of the sketches are being clipped up and put on the official Sky SNL UK YouTube channel", I did specifically say: "However, I think, maybe, just maybe, the sketches on their own may work on social medias".

 

They're generating a lot of chatter on YouTube. But that doesn't benefit Sky in any great way. Remember, YouTube is gaining in popularity. It's more popular than ITV is these days, in terms of overall viewership. 


 


"You can't really compare the viewing figures of a high profile, glossy and expensive HBO drama series with a live Saturday night comedy sketch show. They are different genres, appealing to different demographics."

As I'm discussing only viewing figures and popularity, The Last of Us is a great example. It even has less reach than Sky One. Of course they're different demographics and different genres, but that is irrelevant here as it's about popularity of a programme only. It's like discussing the popularity of The Traitors, The Last of Us and Doctor Who. They all have different audiences but popularity for these programmes based on viewing figures are still generally quite high. I can't compare SNL UK to anything else, as there's nothing else like it available in the UK (or Ireland) that I'm aware of.

"They're generating a lot of chatter on YouTube. But that doesn't benefit Sky in any great way. Remember, YouTube is gaining in popularity. It's more popular than ITV  is these days, in terms of overall viewership."

That's exactly part of my point, SNL UK would be better as individual sketches on social media instead of a full 1¼ hour show. But this is why many TV channel owners are showing more content to e.g. YouTube, I think Channel 4 are showing Hollyoaks on YouTube now. 

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@Marlu-Nyu 

 

I do wonder if they would actually have been more successful launching without the SNL branding which really doesn't mean very much in the UK (and, as I think I've mentioned before, has only occasionally been funny in the US ; )


I agree, I think it’s because the US version has been established over the last 30 years and there's also more money available over there.. I only really like the US version when they mess up and corpse. I tried, and I really did try watching SNL UK, the first episode just fell flat for me. I think the swearing shouldn't have been allowed (like the US version) so it would've been more funny and shocking if they did swear by accident. 

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Dare I be marginally controversial in some eyes by suggesting that liberal left satire with a left wing government never lands? The comics hearts are just not in it.

As an example, Spitting Image worked so well in the 80's because of the bitting satire of Thatcher, whom it was obvious the writers loathed. It lost its edge with the advert of Major and cancelled before their friend Blair. 

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@Marie wrote:

Dare I be marginally controversial in some eyes by suggesting that liberal left satire with a left wing government never lands? The comics hearts are just not in it.

As an example, Spitting Image worked so well in the 80's because of the bitting satire of Thatcher, whom it was obvious the writers loathed. It lost its edge with the advert of Major and cancelled before their friend Blair. 


@Marie 

I won't comment on the politics of it all, but whatmight have an influence is that Ofcom have rules on 'due impartiality' from the media during the election period. We saw this where in June 2024 Sky Comedy didn't broadcast an episode of Last Week Tonight  on the linear channel due to the Ofcom broadcasting rules

 

For the local elections, the period fo elections was deemed by Ofcom to start in England on 30th March (Scotland was 9th April, Wales 8th April. No elections are schedule in Northern Ireland this year) so this could affect it.

 

Despite this, they have made fun of the current government in both the cold open and weekend update segments, but obviously anything must pass legal department for Sky. 

 

 

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I am not addressing the political points that are in this thread, as this is not what this thread is about. It is solely a judgement on viewing figures, and the popularity of SNL UK based on the official viewing figures with comparison to other shows broadcast in the UK. 

(excluding Ireland, as I couldn't find figures for Ireland)

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@Timelord2018 wrote:

It's been renewed for 2nd series by Sky , coming in September 

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/article/sky-confirms-saturday-night-live-uk-will-return-this-septembe...


Excellent news. That came quicker than expected and shows how positive Sky are about the show.

Commissioning 12 rather than 6 or 8 is a real commitment too. I reckon they'll get some higher calibre hosts now too as there really is good buzz around it in the industry.  

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