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Discussion topic: Football Being Killed By Commentators, Rule Changes & That Awful Song 'You'll Never Stop This Flame'

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Football Being Killed By Commentators, Rule Changes & That Awful Song 'You'll Never Stop This Flame'

My Sky Sports subscription expires in May 2024 and after 10+ years I am cancelling. Here's why. 
 
Let's start off with the beautiful game itself. In the old days when the ball struck someone accidentally on the arm, the morons in the crowd would shout for handball and those of us who knew the rules of the game would laugh at them - but now the morons have won. What was once a straightforward call for the referee has become a joke as nonsensical penalties affecting the course of the game are given. And have you noticed now players argue over every single decision and crowd the referee wanting him to book opponents at every turn? I know this has always gone on but it now seems so much more aggressive. And I won't even begin to talk about VAR!!!! 
 
Next up is Sky's presentation. For some reason it is deemed necessary to have two commentators for every game. A proper one who describes what goes on, and a summariser - usually hired because they are an ex player. They are not hired for their eloquence or understanding of the rules (e.g. 'He was offside from that corner') and many of them feel that the game should be watched without any pauses or silences and when I settle down to watch a match, if I find out the commentator is for example Lee Hendrie - Lee I loved you as a player but you never know when to stop talking - then I just tape the game and whizz through it later to catch the goals. Think back to Kenneth Wolstenholme's iconic commentary of England winning the World Cup in 1966 when he said 'Some people are on the pitch - they think it's all over' (then Geoff Hurst scored) 'It Is Now'. If that had been on Sky it would have been  'Some people are on the pitch - they think it's all over' (Summariser) 'Yes people on the pitch, it's disgraceful isn't it Ken, we don't like to see that'. 
 
Another thing that has me reaching for the mute button is that awful song by Celeste called 'Stop This Flame' which is blasted out every few minutes during Sunday coverage. WHY? It has nothing to do with football and it is just irritating. And finally - and some of you out there may feel I am being sexist - but I am not at all interested in seeing women play football (nor is my wife) simply because we want to see the game played at its highest level, but during the recent international break, Sky showed a couple of all girl games, and while I have no problem with this being on TV as I know lots of people enjoy it, I am not happy that I am being charged to watch something I have no interest in. 
 
On a more general point with Sky - how come I can make changes to my TV service on-line by adding things to my package, but when I want to take something away, I have to call and wait in a long queue. Maybe I have been with Sky too long. (I'm planning on quitting their Mobile service in 2024 as well.) 
 
There may be more people out there who agree and I am sure many will disagree. Whatever your opinion - thanks for letting me blow off some steam about this.
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@holeinmyshoe wrote:
And finally - and some of you out there may feel I am being sexist - but I am not at all interested in seeing women play football (nor is my wife) simply because we want to see the game played at its highest level, but during the recent international break, Sky showed a couple of all girl games, and while I have no problem with this being on TV as I know lots of people enjoy it, I am not happy that I am being charged to watch something I have no interest in. 

@holeinmyshoe 

You've answered that question yourself. During the international break they showed more WSL football because there wasn't any Premier League football on. Same as in June and July you pay for the PL channel but there aren't any games to show. 


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@holeinmyshoe that's kind of how sports channels work, you get a variety of competitions from that sport on specially branded channels e.g sky sports crickets shows all types of cricket, sky sports f1 shows all types of motor racing formulas. You aren't paying for access to one particular competition of any sport.



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The amount of your sky sports subscription that goes for the Premier league rights compared to the women's super league is considerably a lot more.

 

The new sky pl deal seems to be for 6.7bn over 4 years, current English football league is nearly a billion (£935m) for five seasons

 

In comparison, the wsl deal with sky and bbc is 8 million per season

 

So based on rough calculation, that is 232 times more.

 

So substantially more of your fee g

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@nolte @holeinmyshoe 

 

And, not coincidentally, the average WSL player earns considerably less in a year than the average PL player does in a week...

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I read recently that Lionesses captain Leah Williamson is on £150k a year at Arsenal. That will seem outrageous to some people but as @TimmyBGood states, quite a few PL players are on that a week. 


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Aren't they planning on relaunching the WSL as the women's premier league with better title sponsor and everything in the longer term.

 

i believe this was the plan as part of the FA no longer controlling and running the WSL and Women's championships from the 24/25 season and it being run like the premier league as an independent body.

 

id expect a bit more investment and better Tv commercials to likely come as a result in within the next 5 years hopefully. Doubt it will ever reach the level of the men's premier league but that clearly has too much money and at some point that bubble will well and truly burst as it's done in a number of other European leagues.



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Yeah and typically that was Arsenal subsiding the cost of the women's team using the money the men's team generates, as historically the money coming in for the women's game has been awful and to grow the game it's needed extra investment.

 

it starting to change with the Arsenal women breaking WSL attendence records now and having 55,000 people watching the half a dozen games they play at the Emirates from this season, but there is a way to go until a lot of the other teams catch up and decide to put the same level of investment in that Arsenal and Chelsea tend to do.



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