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Then Sky isn't the Home of Cricket it's the Home of some Cricket, l and others l believed pay for a dedicated cricket channel, and your  suggestion is that Sky cannot pay for everything, however Sky are well aware that subscribers will have to pay again to access another channel that is showing it, although convienently we can access that by adding it to the Sky package! There may or may not be fewer than 135,000 that would watch this match ( unlikely when you consider the huge Indian population in the UK ) but we are also paying a subscription over the winter months to sky - the majority of those to follow England, in addition Sky makes money from advertising, l appreciate that the BCCI might have played hardball but as TNT reached an agreement  I'm surprised Sky's representatives were unable to be as successful. 

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It's  a question of money, as always. Sky might have been able to outbid the other contenders for the rights,  but at what cost? And how much more are you willing to pay? As someone not interested in cricket, I wouldn't want to be subsidising the additional cost in my subscription charges.

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@MarkGoldsmith wrote:

I guess F1 is the exception to the rule that Sky have had all the events for a number of years

Twelve years, and now until 2029.

 

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12692873/sky-sports-to-remain-home-of-formula-1-until-2029-a... 

 

There was some interesting speculation that F1 might not actually need Sky if they chose to promote online F1 TV Pro instead, but presumably the sums in the European market didn't work out.

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@Alanwigster wrote:

Then Sky isn't the Home of Cricket


Who said they were, if it was Sky themselves then don't listen to their hype as they are known for it. It is odd that these complaints haven't surfaced when England were in Australia playing the Ashes series....

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Sky explicitly say they have every home england cricket game live.

 

Previously Sky may have said they were the home of cricket,  i can't see that phase anywhere on the Sky website in relation to the Sports packages.

 

Cricket rights change over time, so branding and slogans will also change.

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@MarkGoldsmith wrote:

I guess F1 is the exception to the rule that Sky have had all the events for a number of years

Twelve years, and now until 2029.

 

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12692873/sky-sports-to-remain-home-of-formula-1-until-2029-a... 

 

There was some interesting speculation that F1 might not actually need Sky if they chose to promote online F1 TV Pro instead, but presumably the sums in the European market didn't work out.


Indeed, other rumours were that Netflix were interested in the exclusive global rights to broadcast F1. Similar to the $5 billion deal they have just signed for WWE. I suspect F1 will be watching how successful that decomes over the next couple of years, but it wouldn't surprise me to see it follow.

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Previously Sky may have said they were the home of cricket,  i can't see that phase anywhere on the Sky website in relation to the Sports packages.

 


I'd observe a press release almost exactly a year ago was headlined

 

" Sky Sports to remain home of ICC cricket until 2031 in UK and Ireland  " (my emphasis)

 

which is rather different but potentially confusing: the Board of Control for Cricket in India is a member of the International Cricket Council but retains control of broadcast rights to its own hosted Test series, as does any other national Test host.

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Then Sky isn't the Home of Cricket it's the Home of some Cricket, l and others l believed pay for a dedicated cricket channel, and your  suggestion is that Sky cannot pay for everything, however Sky are well aware that subscribers will have to pay again to access another channel that is showing it, although convienently we can access that by adding it to the Sky package! There may or may not be fewer than 135,000 that would watch this match ( unlikely when you consider the huge Indian population in the UK ) but we are also paying a subscription over the winter months to sky - the majority of those to follow England, in addition Sky makes money from advertising, l appreciate that the BCCI might have played hardball but as TNT reached an agreement  I'm surprised Sky's representatives were unable to be as successful. 


A dedicated cricket channels means that channel will show nothing but cricket. It at no way implies that the channel will show every cricket match and tournament that exists.

 

Cricket isn't special, like most sports various events and tournaments will be shared around different broadcasters, so if you want to be able to watch everything you have no option but to sign up to different services. Broadcast deals are how each sport make their money so they will also go for the highest bidder and Sky can't possibly outbid all rivals for every sport they have to strategically chose what to bid for and at what price. They clearly believe they have enough cricket rights to be able to run a dedicated cricket channel.

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To be fair, there's a potentially very misleading quote in that press release:

 

Jonathan Licht, managing director, Sky Sports, said: "With more people watching cricket at the highest level after England men's and women's successes in 2017, 2019 and 2022, our award-winning coverage strives to give cricket fans the complete experience, with all the action both on and off the pitch.

 

"This new direct partnership with the ICC means that Sky Sports viewers in the UK & Ireland can continue to enjoy every ball, run, wicket and catch from every international tournament for many years to come, and we're all hugely excited to see what's in store."

 

 

Unfortunately a Test series is NOT an ' international tournament ' under ICC control: it's effectively a private arrangement between a host and a guest national cricket authority, even though they do have to be ICC members ; (

 

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I can remember a time before sky when test cricket and any cricket played round the world was shown on BBC television, then came along sky and it went to them. Don't forget for a short period it went to Channel 4. There has been a lot of comments about sport in general sky Has been has been good to promote sport, but now it's become as we all know about money . You don't need to stay with one provider. You can now choose who you want to watch. Your sport with the prices are a bit ridiculous but unfortunately that's the way it is. If you want to watch it you've got to pay for it which is a shame because as some pointed out in England, we have a lot of Indian people, they probably would like to watch it. Which is a shame.

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I can remember a time before sky when test cricket and any cricket played round the world was shown on BBC television, then came along sky and it went to them. Don't forget for a short period it went to Channel 4. There has been a lot of comments about sport in general sky Has been has been good to promote sport, but now it's become as we all know about money . You don't need to stay with one provider. You can now choose who you want to watch. Your sport with the prices are a bit ridiculous but unfortunately that's the way it is. If you want to watch it you've got to pay for it which is a shame because as some pointed out in England, we have a lot of Indian people, they probably would like to watch it. Which is a shame.


It wasn't quite as exciting as you remember, @Hello+Golds . Cricket coverage was patchy at best prior to Sky Sports. Very little live cricket was available on TV, with the majority of live coverage being from the World Cups and occasional England matches across BBC, ITV and Channel 4 over the years. Everything else was highlights only, if anything at all.

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This may give more of an explanation of skys current cricket strategy. A couple of media outlets are reporting that DAZN are in a legal dispute with the owners of the IPL rights and will likely be terminating their long term contracts, with Sky in pole position to pick up the rights.


Seemingly Sky are concentrating on the shorter form of cricket (I'm guessing that's more lucrative and get higher viewing figures than the longer forms), and perhaps likely explains why they had little interest in the current test tour in India as they instead use the money to grab these rights.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-13001143/amp/Sky-Sports-UK-2024-IPL-DAZN-Viacom-18...

 

 

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thank you that's very helpful. I just wonder if they are concentrating on more of the contracts for hundred balls game and the T-20 which is more locative. I still think they should be more upfront with the sky customers and whether they are going to to show test cricket or not. Sky customers are loyal to them, but unfortunately they aren't straightforward to us and the old shish, it's all done to money and customers lose out yet again.. but also cricket. I have also noticed they are screening the under 19 World Cup just apply to keep you happy so good for under 19 well under 19 cricket.

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" Cricket gave the BBC television lots of schedule-filling content and home Test matches remained exclusively on the BBC  until 1999, when Channel 4 won the rights . Channel 4 continued to show live cricket until the end of the 2005 Ashes victory over Australia. But after cricket was removed from the list  of "crown jewels" sporting events reserved for terrestrial TV, Sky acquired the rights in 2006, from which point live test cricket has not been available on terrestrial TV. In the intervening years, the BBC has shown highlights from some World Cups  and an away Ashes series in 2006 / 07. "

 

"Howzat! A brief history of cricket on the BBC" 

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I am a huge cricket fan but I had forseen this would happen on the "home" of cricket ever since TNT (formerly BT) started to take rights of Ashes in Australia.

 

I unsubcribed the cricket channel few years ago and only follow on radio of scores on the net.

 

 

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