28 Jan 2025 06:27 PM
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@TimmyBGood wrote:
Always possible WBD is using the UK as a testbed to see how ending broadcast channels affects app subscription uptake...
It's a nice little self-contained market compared to mainland Europe.
I'm sure that is likely the case, as they could have easily made TNT Sports 4 free-to-air if they wanted to to not only offer some of the eurosport content for free still but also as a way to attract and encourage subscribers to TNT Sports.
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28 Jan 2025 07:07 PM
@coltec1956 I personally don't mind paying for Sky Sports because I currently have a good deal but issue for me is Eurosport content moving to a Premium channel when I already pay for Eurosport within my subscription well that used to be case anyhow.. I hardly really watch live tv I got a physical media collection im a online gamer but occasionally do like to watch Sky Q and price is right so I continue it but now a few things I like have changed and just doesn't seem right anymore already downgraded anyways to just sports and signature from end of month but loosing Eurosport in February just shows me how much these companies are pushing for Streaming based services on which i refuse to pay for when I hardly use them anyways
28 Jan 2025 07:11 PM
Apart from customers losing the ability to view cycling for instance there is still an elephant in the room.
The closure of Eurosport and the channels being removed from Sky saves Sky money.
Essentially you were paying for the Eurosport channels with your subscription. After they have gone you are still paying for them.
Yes it is out of Sky's control what has now happened.
But they were in a position previously to bid for the rights for the sports that run on Eurosport which they did not want to do or the bid was to low.
Going back to terms and conditions, of course it covers channels disappearing. Unless Offcom step in and change the rules or you take it to court and win a test case based on it being unfair terms and conditions there is nothing you can do.
Sky fought hard on the end of contract notifications but Ofcom still found them obliged to send the end of contract notifications.
Here is the next thing, how long have Sky known this is what was going to happen. Selling a product knowing it is going to lose services and not informing a potential customer sounds a bit dodgy.
Maybe this will be the next thing, Ofcom looking at changes of services while in contract and ability to cancel.
28 Jan 2025 07:16 PM
@Manixman Great point and I agree with you but I don't on the Sky don't have control bit Comcast own Sky and they work with WBD a lot more than ya may believe and from my understanding it would of been a signed agreement? On which most companies even Sky would make a new agreement unless WBD made a better agreement with TNT who knows 🤷 but how I see it money always talks with anything don't understand why Sky would want to save money when Comcast would with WBD?
28 Jan 2025 07:17 PM
@Manixman *Work
28 Jan 2025 07:29 PM
Will pro cycling be shown live on Sky Sports this year?
it all seems to be rather confusing!
28 Jan 2025 07:39 PM - last edited: 28 Jan 2025 07:41 PM
No all Eurosport content moves to TNT Sports
28 Jan 2025 07:54 PM
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@MrKieranb wrote:@Manixman Great point and I agree with you but I don't on the Sky don't have control bit Comcast own Sky and they work with WBD a lot more than ya may believe and from my understanding it would of been a signed agreement? On which most companies even Sky would make a new agreement unless WBD made a better agreement with TNT who knows 🤷 but how I see it money always talks with anything don't understand why Sky would want to save money when Comcast would with WBD?
@MrKieranb you do realise WBD own TNT as well as Eurosport
in theory all they are doing is closing one set of channels down and moving the content to the other
28 Jan 2025 08:27 PM
I signed a new contract in January
2025. I have got sky sports and
eurosport for watching BSB racing.
which we get for free,
I have now found out that Eurosport is
moving to TNT. And you have to pay a
subscription for that.
i would not have signed with sky if I had
known that.
28 Jan 2025 08:29 PM
Posted by a Superuser, not a Sky employee. Find out moreI have merged your post into a thread already discussing this topic.
28 Jan 2025 10:26 PM
I wonder what certain posters would think of the following scenario... (the specifics are far-fetched but all the same)
Sky Sports decide to make changes to their broadcast channels, merging cricket & golf together to create an additional tennis channel, and putting Premier League behind an extra subscription. Virgin Media have a wholesale carriage agreement with Sky for the SS channels on VM's platform - who should have the final say on the changes? Sky (as channel owner) or Virgin Media (as wholesale customer)?
28 Jan 2025 10:45 PM
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@japitts wrote:I wonder what certain posters would think of the following scenario... (the specifics are far-fetched but all the same)
Sky Sports decide to make changes to their broadcast channels, merging cricket & golf together to create an additional tennis channel, and putting Premier League behind an extra subscription. Virgin Media have a wholesale carriage agreement with Sky for the SS channels on VM's platform - who should have the final say on the changes? Sky (as channel owner) or Virgin Media (as wholesale customer)?
@japitts no different than the Sky Sports F1 changing to Sky Sports Darts
28 Jan 2025 10:59 PM
What's really bad from Sky at the moment is that they are still (as off this evening when I checked) marketing a discovery plus standard package including 'stream over 300 days of cycling'. That is categorically wrong now and the CMA would probably be interested in it...
28 Jan 2025 11:23 PM
no tennis,cycling,snooker
breach of contract
29 Jan 2025 12:50 AM
@japitts wrote:I wonder what certain posters would think of the following scenario... (the specifics are far-fetched but all the same)
Sky Sports decide to make changes to their broadcast channels, merging cricket & golf together to create an additional tennis channel, and putting Premier League behind an extra subscription. Virgin Media have a wholesale carriage agreement with Sky for the SS channels on VM's platform - who should have the final say on the changes? Sky (as channel owner) or Virgin Media (as wholesale customer)?
Ok. I had a BTTV subscription several years ago, when it was BT Vision back then. Sky and BT were not the best of friends back then. 😁 Sky Sports had, if I remember four sports channels at the time, they weren't named, just 1, 2, 3, and 4. Sky wouldn't let BT take their channels so BT complained to Ofcom who ordered Sky to make Sky Sports 1 and 2 available to BT at a reasonable price. (Pretty much for Premier League footy).
That worked for a couple of years until Sky turned Sky Sports 1 into the Main Event channel. Bt were able to negotiate access to the Main Event channel only. Although Sky did give BT permission to use an extra channel to show Sunday football if two were due to be shown at the same time, but only for the football.
The point I make is it was up to Sky how to use their channels, and up to any third party to negotiate access to those channels.
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