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Discussion topic: Changes to the TV Guide - November 2025
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Message posted on 23 Nov 2025 10:13 PM - last edited: 23 Nov 2025 10:15 PM
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Re: Get rid of clubland for Xmas channel
@Marlu-Nyu wrote:
@BrokenGurl62 wrote:I understand that, but I don't like the time of the year and sick of Xmas being forced down are necks from October.... 🙄
I don't think the rest of the world celebrates Christmas as much as the UK & Ireland does, in terms of the commercialism of it and how, as you've said, it's shoved down our necks.
America? That's where the extreme commercialism of Christmas (and most other things) comes from. In terms of TV their cable networks like Hallmark and Lifetime are full of Christmas movies from October onwards, much like similar channels here.
Message posted on 24 Nov 2025 04:32 PM
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Re: Get rid of clubland for Xmas channel
@xenon81 wrote:
@Marlu-Nyu wrote:
@BrokenGurl62 wrote:I understand that, but I don't like the time of the year and sick of Xmas being forced down are necks from October.... 🙄
I don't think the rest of the world celebrates Christmas as much as the UK & Ireland does, in terms of the commercialism of it and how, as you've said, it's shoved down our necks.
America? That's where the extreme commercialism of Christmas (and most other things) comes from. In terms of TV their cable networks like Hallmark and Lifetime are full of Christmas movies from October onwards, much like similar channels here.
My point is that their main holiday towards the end of the year is really Thanksgiving, which seems to be a bigger deal than Christmas over there. Here in the UK and Ireland, it's as if we've rolled the significance of both Thanksgiving and Christmas into one long season.
I also feel we embrace the social side of Christmas more than the US, things like parties, school plays, pantos, pub nights,whereas in America it tends to be more family-focused.
So yes, America commercialised it first, but I think the UK and Ireland took that and dialled it up to 1000%. My broader point is that if people don't like the commercialism, then it needs to be severely reduced to calm everything down.
I saw a mother on Facebook saying she spent over £8,000 (≈ €9,100) on one child for Christmas. That's absolutely ludicrous to me. Potentially putting yourself into debt just to say "I love you the most" is honestly insane. I feel there should be an absolute max of around £100 (≈ €115) per person, and the rest handed over to Santa to help him!
And that brings up another issue: what are people teaching their children? Be good and receive an excessive amount of gifts, many of which they'll probably play with once and then never touch again?
Personally, I'd rather spend that money on making memories,holidays, activities, maybe even a trip to Lapland,actually giving them a childhood.
The whole commercialism has pretty much stripped away what Christmas is meant to be. To me, it's about appreciating those around us, helping others in need, and spending quality time together.
And going back to that £8,000, that could give 800 presents (at £10 each) or over 500 presents (at £15 each) to children who otherwise might get nothing. Or if a family desperately needed £100 a week (£400 a month) just for rent, electricity, heating, food, etc., it could support a family for 20 months!
At some point, it stops being generosity and becomes excess purely for excess's sake.
Message posted on 26 Nov 2025 10:08 AM
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Hey Everyone,
I am going to lock this thread as I feel it has started to venture way off topic and is coming close to breaching the Community guidelines.
If you wish to discuss a specific change to a channel please start a new thread in the "what's on" discussion board.
Thanks,
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