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Discussion topic: How to register as a vulnerable customer for a Sky analogue phone?

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Re: How to register as a vulnerable customer for a Sky analogue phone?

A similar thing happened in mainland uk in december, if there is a telecare alarm present on the line if the order makes it past the sales process the openreach engineer delays the installation and send it back to the provider to cancel the order

 

this is due to the battery backups that some providers supplied not working correctly

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@mormegil wrote:

A similar thing happened in mainland uk in december, if there is a telecare alarm present on the line if the order makes it past the sales process the openreach engineer delays the installation and send it back to the provider to cancel the order

 

this is due to the battery backups that some providers supplied not working correctly


I believe the whole thing has come to a head in recent weeks with so many large storms causing numerous UK wide power cuts. Then the realisation that the so called, battery 'backup' (if even installed) for Digital Voice is totally inadequate to ensure emergency communication cover...

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Re: How to register as a vulnerable customer for a Sky analogue phone?

There's some good resources on how to make calls in A powercut along with links to some tests done by others - https://landlinesgo.digital/powercut 

 

As for mobile coverage this is also being improved through projects such as the SRN (https://srn.org.uk/) and other local government schemes.

 

Letting Sky know about your situation should then allow them to offer you with the appropriate guidance and if you have any telecare alarms to ensure extra checks and procedures are put in place.

 

The "pause" as the media put it is aimed at those with telecare systems who were scoped for non-voluntary migrations (where the provider contacts you to be moved as part their managed migrations). The charter also makes sure extra checks and procedures are put in place to ensure that after the digital switch has been done that the customers telecare alarm still functions.

 

To note that making changes to your package or moving providers is classed as a voluntary move so this will mean you'll be moved to that providers digital based voice service (Internet Calls/Digital Voice)

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@cymru123 wrote:

 

As for mobile coverage this is also being improved through projects such as the SRN (https://srn.org.uk/) and other local government schemes.


Interesting project, stating that in NI they are trying to improve 4G from 79% coverage to 85%! I have lived in my current home for 30+ years, every  mobile operator has promised they are improving their coverage to my area, not one so far has...

 


@cymru123 wrote:

 

To note that making changes to your package or moving providers is classed as a voluntary move so this will mean you'll be moved to that providers digital based voice service (Internet Calls/Digital Voice)


Interesting too as last week when I was 'renegotiating' my Sky contract, one of the questions I was asked was could I receive a good mobile phone signal if I had no power. This panicked me, and I spent the next 5 minutes asserting that I did not want ANY change to my current analogue landline system, and even to the extent that I asked the guy to repeat back what I said to make sure he understood!

 

So I'm guessing, renewing your contract can trigger a change to 'digital' if you're not paying attention!

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So I'm guessing, renewing your contract can trigger a change to 'digital' if you're not paying attention!

Renewal on the same service shouldn't do so, but a change in speed absolutely will because analogue service isn't available on any new order for wholesale bandwidth placed by an ISP.

 

It's also possible that an offer to reduce monthly cost will be linked to a change in technology (FTTC to FTTP) even without a speed change, which would have the same resulting loss of PSTN service.

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@StephenSky wrote:

 

So I'm guessing, renewing your contract can trigger a change to 'digital' if you're not paying attention!


I recently renewed my broadband/phone contract with BT and during the negotiation they asked me if I wanted to switch to digital calls. So far as I know, Sky don't currently raise it unless you're changing your broadband package, as previously posted.

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@Mark39 wrote:

@StephenSky wrote:

 

So I'm guessing, renewing your contract can trigger a change to 'digital' if you're not paying attention!


I recently renewed my broadband/phone contract with BT and during the negotiation they asked me if I wanted to switch to digital calls. So far as I know, Sky don't currently raise it unless you're changing your broadband package, as previously posted.


I wanted my contract to remain exactly the same as is, but I did want a reduction in cost. I suppose me wanting a better price triggered the 'scripted' question if I had a good mobile signal with no external power.

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@StephenSky wrote:
I wanted my contract to remain exactly the same as is, but I did want a reduction in cost. I suppose me wanting a better price triggered the 'scripted' question if I had a good mobile signal with no external power.

Yes, because to move your address to a cheaper wholesale product (rather than cutting their profit margin) the ISP would have to discontinue your PSTN service.

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@Daniel0210 wrote:

@StephenSky 
Try this different link

https://www.skyaccessibility.sky/


Sadly that link does not provide an answer to my original question. But someone has marked it as an, 'answer' LOL Maybe they were thinking of a different question 🤣

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@StephenSky wrote:

@Daniel0210 wrote:

@StephenSky 
Try this different link

https://www.skyaccessibility.sky/


Sadly that link does not provide an answer to my original question. But someone has marked it as an, 'answer' LOL Maybe they were thinking of a different question 🤣


I suspect there's confusion between registering as an accessible customer with Sky and registering as a vulnerable customer with Openreach (via Sky).

 

They're not the same thing, and doing the former doesn't automatically complete the latter.

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Not looking good so far. Sent letter 1st class signed for, they have it but I've heard nothing yet. They have my email, mobile, landline, and address. You'd have thought they would even acknowledge receipt. I'm really not impressed...

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Re: How to register as a vulnerable customer for a Sky analogue phone?

A bit of humble pie!

 

I just got a wonderful landline call from Sky accessibility team based in Scotland.

 

I am now registered as a 'vulnerable' customer for the sake of OpenReach change over to landline Digital Voice! So, an old fashioned letter worked after all, and this thread can now legitimately wear the badge of, answered'!

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