Why is Sky Stream so bad?

[padre]

I just have sky tv and BB  and landline. Ive been looking at sky,s offer of Glass, is all this streaming and glass tv one of the same or is watching glass ok? Being a very senior citizen I may be a bit slower than some younger ones, but im pretty much all ok with tech.

But what Ive been reading in this thread it seems to be all about streaming OR is that what glass is. When Ive tried to learn the very basics of what sky glass is or does some reads are a bit hard to grasp.

But if in this thread is as glass is then maybe its best I stick with my 45 inch Samsung.

[bydandie]

---

@padre wrote:

I just have sky tv and BB  and landline. Ive been looking at sky,s offer of Glass, is all this streaming and glass tv one of the same or is watching glass ok? Being a very senior citizen I may be a bit slower than some younger ones, but im pretty much all ok with tech.

But what Ive been reading in this thread it seems to be all about streaming OR is that what glass is. When Ive tried to learn the very basics of what sky glass is or does some reads are a bit hard to grasp.

But if in this thread is as glass is then maybe its best I stick with my 45 inch Samsung.

---

The entertainmentOS is in both Stream and Glass.

What you have to remember is that people only come here when they find an issue. The TV is 2 yrs old tech and expensive for what it is now, so you need to be careful. If you have a good TV, then get Stream if you want to try it.

The UX is different but good once you get your head round it. The challenge is that ITVx appears to be flaky, and we don't know if that's down to Sky or ITV. 

[M3rk]

---

@daveyu wrote:

Stream sucks compared to Q I find the UI clunky and not user friendly apps are crap particularly itvx which you may need with no plus one channels

the remote is poor compared to the fluid remote

constantly rebooting box for one issue or another and yes I have fast fibre

---

Wont disagree with most of what your saying, stream is super marmite!

All i would say is plus one channels are not needed on stream , for Q its there to give you another chance of warching if you haven't saved it , for stream the program is there by default via catch up.

[padre]

@bydandieThank you for reply. All sounds a bit above me to be honest. Tv, Streaming etc, seems there is a lot to try and get your head round. For me personally for the forseeable future dont think I will be having glass, streaming or what ever, I will stick to sky Q and netflix and the few terrestial programes I watch. Sounds far to complicated for my liking.

As I get older I find life is getting harder everything on line passwords etc its a nightmare.

But thank you for your replys,

[Fothergill1]

@padre Like you I am a senior but don't quite feel I have reached the next rank of Very 🤣

I have been a Glass subscriber for 15 months and at that time a stream puck on its own was not an option.  If it had been I would have got a Stream puck and not Glass.  Glass and Stream are basically the same thing with the Glass TV having a pretty good built in sound bar and the stream puck incorporated within the TV casing.  The problem with going to Glass at this stage is it is a TV with 2 year old technology and was mediocre at best when it was first released.  

All in all I like and get on well with my Glass TV but it is by no means perfect and still needs improvements in a number of areas.  When asked for my input by family or friends I always suggest that if they are happy with Sky Q then they should remain with it for a while longer as the streaming platform is not yet stable enough.

IMHO streaming is without doubt the future of TV viewing but it is not quite there yet.

[scoobtdoo6]

Hi Padre, You are correct in thinking it's a different proposition to Sky Q and for some people that isn't a problem but the idea that you can find whatever you want when you want is an illusion. For instance if , like me, you like football and quiz programmes I sometimes don't have enough time to watch things to the end and enjoy catching up later before I know the result or score from some other means. You can record on Q to watch when you want but on Stream you are reliant on them being put onto a catch up programme and Premier football and The Chase , as examples, don't appear on catch up either in full or within a few days which I found really disappointing. I also have a smart tv which fulfills a lot of the catch up element.

Good luck whatever you do but maybe have a look at someone who has Sky/ Stream to see the reality.

[padre]

@Fothergill1 @scoobtdoo6  Thank you both very much for replys. @Fothergill1 now I understand what this glass is exactly. I dont even stream on my laptop in fact never done it. If I can not find something to watch Ive never gone looking for a link or something to find it.

@scoobtdoo6  Thats an eye opener not able to record anything!! wow I personally think thats awful. So if you can never record with sky glass I sure as heck will never be having it. Reason! I go to bed about 22.15/22.30, and if a program does not finish till say 23.00 I record it and watch it starting at an earlier time next night. and as you say if you dont have time to watch a game and have to basically FF to result that spoils the enjoyment. More reasons I will not be having it. Thank you both.

[M3rk]

@padre i wouldn't let the fact that it doesn't record put you off to much. We moved away from Q when this first came out and haven't missed that function at all, in fact my sky Q box went back full of recordings never watched. The idea with stream being its available directly after broadcast on catch up so you don't need to record.

But there is a caveat, as @scoobtdoo6  mentioned it can be hit and miss with sport, i haven't had any issues that come to mind with general programmes and they always seem to be there when we want to watch after the live broadcast.

But yes it is noticeable with sport, sometimes not appearing for a few days. Personally i never see it as an issue, if its an important game then i'm watching it live. For me even watching on say 30min delay, its too easy to get spoilt by news / socials / friends texting, if its then something i still want to watch, then for me its no biggie, if that's a few days late. obviously that's just me.

There is lots to like with stream in my opinion, picture quality being the main one.

Am always an advocate of try yourself, we are all different, and see if you like it! if you do i would say try for the full 30 days, don't use it for a few hours and then bin it off, its very different to Q so does take some getting used to.

[JulesFP]

---

@M3rk wrote:

@padre i wouldn't let the fact that it doesn't record put you off to much. We moved away from Q when this first came out and haven't missed that function at all, in fact my sky Q box went back full of recordings never watched. The idea with stream being its available directly after broadcast on catch up so you don't need to record.

But there is a caveat, as @scoobtdoo6  mentioned it can be hit and miss with sport, i haven't had any issues that come to mind with general programmes and they always seem to be there when we want to watch after the live broadcast.

But yes it is noticeable with sport, sometimes not appearing for a few days. Personally i never see it as an issue, if its an important game then i'm watching it live. For me even watching on say 30min delay, its too easy to get spoilt by news / socials / friends texting, if its then something i still want to watch, then for me its no biggie, if that's a few days late. obviously that's just me.

There is lots to like with stream in my opinion, picture quality being the main one.

Am always an advocate of try yourself, we are all different, and see if you like it! if you do i would say try for the full 30 days, don't use it for a few hours and then bin it off, its very different to Q so does take some getting used to.

---

I've also found the add-to-playlist stuff hit and miss with films where I've saved a film to watch later but by the time I get round to watching it it's disappeared. I think (and might be totally wrong) that might be an issue for movies on the national channels such as BBC, ITV etc where they might have limited-time rights to show a movie so it isn't hosted on their streaming platform (e.g. iPlayer) for very long after it is first broadcast.

[Fothergill1]

@padre I agree pretty much with the post above by @M3rk I haven't miss the recording function.  When I moved to Glass I took photos of my recordings menu on my Sky Q box and then simply searched for them on my new Sky Glass.  Yes there were a couple of programmes I couldn't find but that wasn't an issue as I found the other 99%..

I have found one great advantage with the streaming platform is that if I watch a programme for the first time and enjoy it I have the option of adding it to my playlist and then I can watch all the previous series.  This is not something I could have done with most programmes on Sky Q.

I do not have any pucks and have not seen the picture quality but by all accounts it is outstanding.  Unfortunately this is not the case with the Sky Glass TV which has an acceptable picture but nothing to get excited about.  My Old TV had a much better picture.

[Fothergill1]

@padre seeing the post by @JulesFP above concerning films has reminded me that using Glass or Stream to watch films that have a break in the middle (for news etc) is a definite NO it just doesn't pick up the second half of the file which is really annoying.

[padre]

Thank you all for the abovve posts and your answers. I like to have recordings some things I like to keep, to look at again at a later period. So if you have something recorded and its not on this stream thing then your snookered am i right?

Ive never really been a film watcher had sky movies for 16 years watched one film so got rid of movies. I have things on my Q box like a particular series of All creatures Great and Small, you would not find that on stream or iplayer or netflix!!

I have a panasonic DVD player/recorder/editor so i can watch stuff recorded to this box edit it, IE cut out the crappy adverts, then burn to dvd. sadly you cant copy from sky box to dvd or edit on sky box, for me that would be an excellent function, it could Im sure be easily done. Ive had stuff recorded on sky Q copied it over to my panasnic box, then edited it then put on a disk. I have some stuff that probably a lot of the older generation would like lets you see how things used to be how we lived etc and were happy, and for a lot I dare so not so happy with the goings on in the world today, so for me these recordings are a look back to happier times in my dotage. A few mates abour 8 of us on a whatts app group all support the same footy team and we are spread all over and all except me do this streaming in their pc,s for a link to watch the game, ME if its not on terrestial or sky then I dont see it no problem. So I will happily stay with Q and my recordings. Many thanks.

[bydandie]

You have to do what's right for you. Stream/Glass isn't for everyone. It's a shame that some of the useful stuff won't make it down to Q from the new platform but that's life and where the US owners want us to go towards. 

[padre]

so are we having to do what yankee land says? and can I ask please what features could be made useable on Q.  thanks.

[padre]

Sky Glass review: price, specs, features and performance | What Hi-Fi?

I read somewhere that people thought they paid £ 13/26 a month and that was it but this is just for the tv, then there is all your other sky stuff.

If anyone has  real good TV (as I do) surely sky have not a hope of to many people taking up this glass?