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Discussion topic: Has anyone had a positive experience with UHD/Atmos content with the Stream Puck?

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This message was authored by: Dac20vt

Has anyone had a positive experience with UHD/Atmos content with the Stream Puck?

I've tried everything to get Atmos content to play consistently but recently been unable to get through a single UHD Premier League game without losing audio completely until a reboot.

 

I'm keen to understand if anyone has had a problem free experience when using Atmos on the puck to an external device. 

 

I've cancelled UHD/Atmos for now as i'd rather watch in HD without audio issues. Sky really need to be doing something about this.

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This message was authored by: Chrisee

Re: Has anyone had a positive experience with UHD/Atmos content with the Stream Puck?

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@Dac20vt my main Stream puck plays Atmos content without issue. A lot of audio issues are down to the combination of the puck working with a TV and then the audio kit you use to play the sound.if you post details of your set up forum members can advise.

 

You can sometimes solve issues by changing the pucks audio output from the default Auto setting to Pass through and if you have a sound bar or AV amp connected via a TV by ARC do the same  with your TV's audio settings. That means the puck and TV no longer process the incoming audio signal which lessens the risk that the data stream gets scrambled.

 

 

 

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This message was authored by: Nigelb1972

Re: Has anyone had a positive experience with UHD/Atmos content with the Stream Puck?

Yup. I've not had a single issue in six months but we've got 500mbps broadband, connected by Ethernet so we're maxing out the Ethernet port on the Puck and I'm using HDMI 2.1 cables. Puck to TV and the. eARC out to soundbar. The only slight issue I get is an occasional audio dropout which I've put down to the eARC pulling the Audio and video into sync but that happens once every few hours and last a couple of seconds. I suspect that this is connected to the sync issues others have reported but it happens so infrequently that it's not an issue.

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@Nigelb1972so you do have audio dropouts? Unfortunately that doesn't count as "not a single issue" in my book.

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This message was authored by: Dac20vt

Re: Has anyone had a positive experience with UHD/Atmos content with the Stream Puck?

@Chrisee I have already done all that.

 

My kit is LG OLED CX and Bose Soundbar 600. Both Soundbar and Sky Puck are plugged into HDMI 2.1 ports and the soundbar is using eArc. 

Puck is connected via ethernet and im on Gigafast so can rule out bandwidth issues. 

This message was authored by: Padam_Padam

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My guess is that it's down to the particular Sky server your Stream account is hosted on. Customers are hosted on different servers, some of which will get busier than others at different times. A busier server will have added lag between server and puck. Lag can cause dropouts. 

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@Dac20vt  Been rock solid with HDR & Atmos here. Using a 43" Sky Glass upstairs, with Sky Puck going into a Denon X3500H AV receiver with a 5.1.2 speaker system attached, then onto a Sony 55" X9500F TV. Atmos content plays back without a hitch, with Sky's HLG implementation of HDR for their own content working fine on the Sony. The likes of The Last Of Us and the outdoor, perma-night scenes in True Detective: Night Country often giving demo worthy results.

 

We only watch on demand content, mostly films & premium drama, so we don't have the live streaming use case that you do with live sports.

 

The Sky Stream puck goes directly into the AV receiver, which handles the audio then outputs the video signal to the TV. All devices running the latest available firmware from Denon & Sony.

 

Sky Puck audio output is set to Passthrough so the AV receiver does all of the processing with the highest quality/feature signal possible.

Sky Glass & Stream Puck customer w/Sky Entertainments & Netflix, Sky Cinema, Whole Home & UHD/Dolby Atmos add-on.
This message was authored by: Nigelb1972

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@Dac20vt it happens so infrequently that i don't see it as an issue... 

This message was authored by: Chrisee

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@Padam_Padam I think your guess is not likely. Comcast have never talked about the streaming platform architecture any where I have found but that is cloud based unicast system with built-in load balancing is a safe assumption. As far as we have been told Stream does not use the same platform other Sky services like Sky Go use.

 

When I was party to a discussion on audio issues with the lead engineer at Sky whose team works with third party equipment manufacturers to solve these issues they are often down to small differences in things like timing. In theory HDMI works superbly well between brands but practice can be diferent.

 

As I posted passing the raw audio stream through from the broadcast to the final decoder seems, in most cases, the most reliable. Certainly works with my LGC9 and  aged Denon amp linked to a 5.2.1 speaker set up.

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This message was authored by: Padam_Padam

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@Chrisee 

You may well be correct, but I was merely guessing. The Comcast "streaming platform architecture" is the only thing that sets Sky apart from other streaming services and devices. 

The small (but obvious to me) lag that accompanies the Sky Stream UI at all times is symptomatic of the platform being server based. Someone on another post labelled it 'friction' which I think is very appropriate. 

No other streaming device on the market uses the same architecture (as far as we know) in the same way, so it's safe to assume that it's somewhere in this architecture that the problems lie for those of us who have or have had issues with the service. 

When I had Stream I too passed the raw audio directly to my Denon AVR then through to my TV. I experienced the odd random audio drop-out and random lip sync errors between apps and live channel streams. The same would occur if the puck was connected direct to the TV with passthrough to the AVR via eARC. Nothing I tried in a year of ownership (including a replacement puck, a different TV and a different AVR) would solve it with any level of consistency.

The vast majority of happy Sky Stream customers are typical mass-market Sky customers who aren't interested in the minutiae of the service - audio codecs, lag, buffering, etc. They don't notice the odd drop out or may not even know what Dolby Atmos is, let alone have a means of processing it. They just want to turn on their telly, press a button and watch Corrie. That's why most of the questions on here relate to connection issues - the mass market aren't yet used to maintaining a robust, fast and stable broadband connection in their home in order to receive their TV service. 

For me, this is the key to Sky Stream. I keep saying - it's a mass market product and for most people it does the job and works well. Dolby Atmos is not mass market. If you did a poll of Sky customers only a small minority would be able to tell you what it was. Sky don't even highlight when Dolby Atmos is available on content particularly well. 

Other hardware manufacturers produce cheap mass market products which output Atmos perfectly well. Amazon Firesticks have been doing it for years. I don't think I've ever experienced an Atmos dropout with either of the two I've had.

This leads me back to Comcast's "streaming platform architecture" - it's the one unknown quantity in all this. As you say, they've never talked about it because it's clearly proprietary, and I think the Atmos issues (and probably some of the other issues) lie somewhere within how it works. 

  

This message was authored by: purpleparrotuk

Re: Has anyone had a positive experience with UHD/Atmos content with the Stream Puck?

Atmos has dropouts all the time for me. On both tvs with different sound setups. The boxes are simply not powerful enough. 

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