Discussion topic: Quo Vadis Sky Q
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Message posted on 29 Jun 2023 12:36 PM
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Quo Vadis Sky Q
I have Sky Q, and in the past had various different releases of the Sky boxes. All of these, of course, had a local hard disc enabling the flexibility to pause, record and watch TV when we wish. To my mind this facility is now indispensable. We use it for deferring a programme by a few minutes (often to allow fast forwarding of the adverts) through to keeping a favourite film long term.
Speculation is that Sky will move away from satellite feeds to streaming. I can see the business sense of this, replacing the satellites when they come to end of life and fixing dishes to customer’s properties must be more expensive than using the increasing availability of high speed broadband. Especially if you have a stake in that sector too.
When I first heard about Sky Glass I read that it would use cloud storage. I assumed that meant that each user would have their own cloud storage allocation on Sky’s servers to use just like Sky Q’s local hard disc. My assumption was clearly wrong, they meant using the various catch up services, for me this does not replace the record facility.
From what I have read, Virgin Media’s 360 box combines streaming and local hard disc storage. I have never used this, or even seen it in action, but I imagined it working just like Sky Q.
I wonder whether Sky will produce a box that is “Sky Stream with a hard disc”, or even implement the concept of user cloud storage to replace the hard disc. Surely this must be their direction or they will lose customers like me who want the flexibility that Sky Q offers over Stream.
What do people on here think will happen in the future with Sky boxes?
Would you move from Sky Q to Stream as it is implemented now?
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Message posted on 29 Jun 2023 01:01 PM - last edited: 29 Jun 2023 01:02 PM
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Re: Quo Vadis Sky Q
Eventually the need for a Hard disk will become superfluous...
Streaming services (take the BBC iPlayer) now provide a timeshifted stream for 'live' programmes - so no need to record...
The downside (or upside if you're a broadcaster) is that you cannot maintain your own local content library - but even now downloaded content does have DRM and expires even on the hard disk.
The move is definitely towards streaming content (even 'terrestrial'), but Q will be here for many more years yet.
Message posted on 29 Jun 2023 01:10 PM - last edited: 29 Jun 2023 01:12 PM
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Re: Quo Vadis Sky Q
@apchelt wrote:
I have Sky Q, and in the past had various different releases of the Sky boxes. All of these, of course, had a local hard disc enabling the flexibility to pause, record and watch TV when we wish. To my mind this facility is now indispensable. We use it for deferring a programme by a few minutes (often to allow fast forwarding of the adverts) through to keeping a favourite film long term.
Speculation is that Sky will move away from satellite feeds to streaming. I can see the business sense of this, replacing the satellites when they come to end of life and fixing dishes to customer’s properties must be more expensive than using the increasing availability of high speed broadband. Especially if you have a stake in that sector too.
When I first heard about Sky Glass I read that it would use cloud storage. I assumed that meant that each user would have their own cloud storage allocation on Sky’s servers to use just like Sky Q’s local hard disc. My assumption was clearly wrong, they meant using the various catch up services, for me this does not replace the record facility.
From what I have read, Virgin Media’s 360 box combines streaming and local hard disc storage. I have never used this, or even seen it in action, but I imagined it working just like Sky Q.
I wonder whether Sky will produce a box that is “Sky Stream with a hard disc”, or even implement the concept of user cloud storage to replace the hard disc. Surely this must be their direction or they will lose customers like me who want the flexibility that Sky Q offers over Stream.
What do people on here think will happen in the future with Sky boxes?
Would you move from Sky Q to Stream as it is implemented now?
hi @apchelt
No I can't see any form of stream box with Physical recording or even full 'cloud recording' as people interpreted the initial (or maybe even current) Sales pitch for Glass & Stream
BTW The finite fuel in the satellites & cost of replacements does mean that SKY HD & SKY Q have limited time spans (around a further 5 years I think) - SKY are extremely unlikely to spend the very high costs needed to fund any replacement Satellites. for 28.2E (Although I think I did read that other european broadcasters that use those at 19E will help fund at least one to extend that position for longer)
I, like you, use the local record function a lot and will miss that functionality when Q is no longer an option
I hope that the functionality & reliability of 'playlists' and the reliance on the plethora of catch up apps & the functionality of those will improve by the time I will need to switch - I suspect there will be improvements but I am not sure if they will improve as much I would like
Message posted on 29 Jun 2023 01:46 PM
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Re: Quo Vadis Sky Q
@nigea99 wrote:I, like you, use the local record function a lot and will miss that functionality when Q is no longer an option
Me too - but if all content you needed was available to stream instantly then all's good? (If it actually works...)
Message posted on 29 Jun 2023 02:00 PM
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Re: Quo Vadis Sky Q
@PandJ2020 wrote:
The move is definitely towards streaming content (even 'terrestrial'), but Q will be here for many more years yet.
Well, until 2028 when Sky's carriage agreement with SES expires.
My guess is it won't be extended again.
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Message posted on 29 Jun 2023 02:20 PM - last edited: 29 Jun 2023 02:30 PM
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Re: Quo Vadis Sky Q
@PandJ2020 wrote:
@nigea99 wrote:I, like you, use the local record function a lot and will miss that functionality when Q is no longer an option
Me too - but if all content you needed was available to stream instantly then all's good? (If it actually works...)
Well almost..
One thing that the current playlist approach doesn't cater for (& I suspect never will) is my habit of recording & keeping just one or 2 episodes from a series which I sometimes do for example due to a guest actor in a show - playlists tend to only work with the whole series so finding indivdual episodes can be difficult
I, also, have a habit of hanging on to a few recordings far longer than some will be availble in 'catch up' (I know my hdd could fail though)
Also from what I read sport can be a bit hit & miss with the ability to watch full events time delayed not always available and/or not always in a timely fashion. I suspect (& definitely hope) by the time I need to switch from Q that these will be sorted out & any issues regarding live vs non-live rights are all sorted.
Edit: I also hope that any catch up apps will also ensure full quality for both video & sound - something currently lacking from several - even the Iplayer that has UHD/HDR feeds uses downmixed surround rather than native 5.1
Message posted on 29 Jun 2023 03:04 PM
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Re: Quo Vadis Sky Q
the day that I can no longer record programs on a hard disk will be the day I cancel sky.
Whenever I try to use catchup to access a sporting event that my skyQ failed to record (either a technical fault or or as occasionally happens a channel change) I find it isn't available - in fact a look through what is available shows very little sport is.
Additionally, I often watch games weeks after they have been broadcast, so even if they were originally available they would probably have vanished.
Also I invariably watch everything timeshifted, even if only by 15-20 minutes as I don't like halftime breaks.
I saw a program in the epg which I liked the look of, set the recording only to see it was episode 4. Tried My5 to get the first 3 episodes - no sign of them anywhere - total waste of space.
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