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Discussion topic: Is sky Q and sky boxes in general eventually going to be obsolete?

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This message was authored by Chodley This message was authored by: Chodley

Re: Is sky Q and sky boxes in general eventually going to be obsolete?

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There is now nowhere in the UK and Ireland that you can't get at least starlink with 150Mb+ let alone by 2029 or whenever the satellite services end, so this premise that the broadband infrastructure doesn't exist is false anyway.

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Re: Is sky Q and sky boxes in general eventually going to be obsolete?

the broadband infrastructure might exist but the point is it's not strong or good enough at the moment to roll out a full TV service with I get that broadband is the future don't get me wrong but what I'm saying is hold off a bit until it's more reliable and there are better connections out there My Internet goes off at least once or twice a month it's the fault of the network provider so my point is that if they get rid of satellite dishes altogether which I know they are planning to do and we are left we just broadband for or TV services then if it goes down, I will have no TV it's not reliable not at the moment.

Derek Michael O’Brien
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@Dobber1234 wrote:

the broadband infrastructure might exist but the point is it's not strong or good enough at the moment to roll out a full TV service with I get that broadband is the future don't get me wrong but what I'm saying is hold off a bit until it's more reliable and there are better connections out there My Internet goes off at least once or twice a month it's the fault of the network provider so my point is that if they get rid of satellite dishes altogether which I know they are planning to do and we are left we just broadband for or TV services then if it goes down, I will have no TV it's not reliable not at the moment.


hi @Dobber1234 

 

As we have said the Satelites will stay for a few years, so there is some time for internet to improve,but they will run out of fuel 

 

So unless there is sufficient finance to launch new ones (which realistically won't come from SKY as they diversify)  they simply won;t be capable of providing the service

 

I don't think a refuelling hose will reach 22000 miles from the earth 🙂

This message was authored by Chodley This message was authored by: Chodley

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@Dobber1234 wrote:

the broadband infrastructure might exist but the point is it's not strong or good enough at the moment to roll out a full TV service with I get that broadband is the future don't get me wrong but what I'm saying is hold off a bit until it's more reliable and there are better connections out there My Internet goes off at least once or twice a month it's the fault of the network provider so my point is that if they get rid of satellite dishes altogether which I know they are planning to do and we are left we just broadband for or TV services then if it goes down, I will have no TV it's not reliable not at the moment.


What do you think 150Mb means?


and 2029?

 

If your internet connection goes off completely once or twice a month (are you sure that's what's happening?), I'd be complaining or switching Mine hasn't gone off for 18 months and has been as reliable as that for 20 years+

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Research on sky glass

I've been doing some research on sky glass and it seems my fears are more than justified because not only will the end of sky Q at some stage bring the end of satellite TV but apparently it will also bring the end of the ability to be able to record our programs. I definitely definitely against it now and even more fearful about the future with sky TV not only are we losing TV through satellite we are also losing the ability to be able to record our programs for me. This is definitely a no no there might be nothing high as an individual can do about it, but I'm just letting everyone know how I feel I never knew until I read up this afternoon that sky glass does not give you the ability to record your programs like sky Q so when sky Q does eventually come to an end that ability will be gone forever so my fears are doubly justified right now

 

Derek Michael O’Brien sky customer since 2006 This in my opinion is why sky need to bring out another box like sky Q which I know will not happen but in my ideal world, I would love it. Tell me your opinions please.

Derek Michael O’Brien
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@Dobber1234 wrote:

Tell me your opinions please.


@Dobber1234 

Unless you know someone who has a fair few billion to spend sending a new satellite up then there's nothing more to discuss on the subject.


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@Dobber1234 wrote:

This in my opinion is why sky need to bring out another box like sky Q which I know will not happen but in my ideal world, I would love it. Tell me your opinions please.


They've publicly announced they are shifting to streaming.   The days of home hard disk recording are numbered.

 


it will also bring the end of the ability to be able to record our programs

Yes.  But they're not 'your' programmes.  For the broadcaster it gives them complete control over their material and how and when it's consumed - any particularly whether there are Ads etc.

I am just another Sky customer and my views are my own even if you don't like the answers
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@Dobber1234 wrote:

I've been doing some research on sky glass and it seems my fears are more than justified because not only will the end of sky Q at some stage bring the end of satellite TV but apparently it will also bring the end of the ability to be able to record our programs. I definitely definitely against it now and even more fearful about the future with sky TV not only are we losing TV through satellite we are also losing the ability to be able to record our programs for me. This is definitely a no no there might be nothing high as an individual can do about it, but I'm just letting everyone know how I feel I never knew until I read up this afternoon that sky glass does not give you the ability to record your programs like sky Q so when sky Q does eventually come to an end that ability will be gone forever so my fears are doubly justified right now

 

Derek Michael O’Brien sky customer since 2006 This in my opinion is why sky need to bring out another box like sky Q which I know will not happen but in my ideal world, I would love it. Tell me your opinions please.


Do you feel the need to record Netflix content?

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@Chodley wrote:

Do you feel the need to record Netflix content?


Don't give people ideas... 😆

I am just another Sky customer and my views are my own even if you don't like the answers
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@Daniel0210 wrote:

@Dobber1234 wrote:

Tell me your opinions please.


@Dobber1234 

someone who has a fair few billion to spend sending a new satellite up


Only about £100,000,000 (roughly one HS2 bat tunnel) apiece, I believe, including launch*, because earth orbit stuff is really quite cheap these days.  Comcast/Sky could easily afford this but they just aren't going to: as I've observed before, the Comcast Corporation is at heart a cable company...

 

* or 1/20th of a Premier League season ; )

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For context, Astra 1P went up on a SpaceX Falcon 9 Block 5 to serve mainland Europe at 19.2E for between sixty and seventy million dollars launch cost, with an orbital hardware bill from Thales in the low tens of millions.

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End of satellite TV, which means the Astra two satellite fleet

Hi everyone, I've been doing further research into this topic as I'm really passionate about it as you are know by now. According to what I have read online what's coming to an end in 2029/30 is the Astra two satellite fleet? So what about this for suggestion? Maybe it's not possible but there are more satellite fleets out there I would say then the Astra two fleet when the Astra two fleet is switched off why doesn't sky TV simply switch to another satellite fleet, maybe I'm talking complete gibberish but as far as I know there are more satellite fleets in space it's not just one it's one that's coming to the end of its life yes but find out utilise some of the others just my opinion

 

furthermore I intend to write an email to the chief executive of sky Mr JD Buckley and put this point to him. Maybe nobody has thought of it and then again they probably have and just dismissed it as not viable as I'm sure many of you on this forum are going to tell me it's just an idea I'm not giving up on satellite TV without a fightIMG_0285.jpeg

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Re: End of satellite TV, which means the Astra two satellite fleet

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@Dobber1234 

 

Believe it or not SKY TV DTH started out on Astra 1 at 19E but that was for the Analogue service (round dishes if you remember them)

(SKY Europe cable feeds before DTH used Eutelsat at 13E) 

 

Your suggestion would require sufficient capacity on the new Satellites that have been launched to extend the service for Europe but more importantly the re-alignement and /or replacement of the Satellite dishes - which whilst cheaper than launching Satellites is still not something I anticipate SKY or Freesat suppliers doing 

 

Thus I realy can't see SKY - who as we have said are now owned by Comcast - a cable/internet based company - remotely considering it

 

edit : BTW Do not forget that SKY have already laid off lots of Engineers which I think is a sure way of indicating their long term intentions

 

I  really do think you would be better putting your energies into trying to get improved broadband provision than trying to get some form of extension to Satellite TV in the UK 

 

As mentioned we do have a few years yet before the Astra 2 Satellites run out of fuel.

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Re: Is sky Q and sky boxes in general eventually going to be obsolete?

I don't care about satellites (unless they fall on me) but I do want a streaming box with a hard drive of some sort that can store shows locally.

 

Rewinding and FFwing video streams is still a miserable experience in 2025. 

 

Easily skipping through content, especially adverts, makes Sky Q a dream to use. 

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@Dobber1234 wrote:

Hi everyone, I've been doing further research into this topic as I'm really passionate about it as you are know by now. According to what I have read online what's coming to an end in 2029/30 is the Astra two satellite fleet? So what about this for suggestion? Maybe it's not possible but there are more satellite fleets out there I would say then the Astra two fleet when the Astra two fleet is switched off why doesn't sky TV simply switch to another satellite fleet, maybe I'm talking complete gibberish but as far as I know there are more satellite fleets in space it's not just one it's one that's coming to the end of its life yes but find out utilise some of the others just my opinion

 

furthermore I intend to write an email @ and put this point to him. Maybe nobody has thought of it and then again they probably have and just dismissed it as not viable as I'm sure many of you on this forum are going to tell me it's just an idea I'm not giving up on satellite TV without a fightIMG_0285.jpeg


@Dobber1234  Don't know where you're got that name from but they certainly aren't the CEO of sky


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