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Having SKYQ installed soon and need to know if Sony Model KDL26S300 is suitable for mini box

Previous installation of SKYQ at another property had issue with TV it was to be connected to , although there were HDMI connections. Do not want this same problem with our installation. Mini Box is to be connected to a Sony Model KDL26S3000. Been on to Sony but all they have stated is the compatible cable is HD2.0.

 

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@MU422 wrote:

 

Mini Box is to be connected to a Sony Model KDL26S3000.


That appears to be a set released in 2007, so it's certainly possible its compliance with the HDCP version required for output from a Mini box over HDMI is questionable, particularly if it has never had a firmware update.

 

HDCP revision Release Date
1.0 17/02/2000
1.1 9/06/2003
1.2 13/06/2006
1.3 21/12/2006
1.4 8/07/2009
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@MU422 

 

Perhaps worth noting a Mini box can also connect to a television set of that vintage using a Nokia CA-75U cable, which avoids potential HDCP issues at the cost of some image quality.

 

CA_75U_1.jpg

 

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@MU422 wrote:

Previous installation of SKYQ at another property had issue with TV it was to be connected to , although there were HDMI connections. Do not want this same problem with our installation. Mini Box is to be connected to a Sony Model KDL26S3000. Been on to Sony but all they have stated is the compatible cable is HD2.0.

 


hi @MU422 

 

As the TV HDMI inputs both allow 1080i & 1080p I am  confident it will work

 

If there was any problem with HDCP  on the HDMI inputs (which I personally doubt) then you would still be able to use it with a mini in SD mode using an optional AV cable (we can give details of such a cable to buy should you need one) to connect to the Analogue AV inputs

 

EDIT : I see @TimmyBGood has posted info for these cables whilst I was typing

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@MU422 wrote:

 

 Mini Box is to be connected to a Sony Model KDL26S3000.

 


hi @MU422 

 

As the TV HDMI inputs both allow 1080i & 1080p I am  confident it will work

 


A set from 2007 might only support HDCP 1.1 while from memory Q needs at least 1.2 over HDMI

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@nigea99 wrote:

@MU422 wrote:

 

 Mini Box is to be connected to a Sony Model KDL26S3000.

 


hi @MU422 

 

As the TV HDMI inputs both allow 1080i & 1080p I am  confident it will work

 


A set from 2007 might only support HDCP 1.1 while from memory Q needs at least 1.2 over HDMI


@TimmyBGood isn't the specification 1.4 for minis and 2.0 for main Q boxes that are UHD capable and 1.4 for the old 1TB non UHD boxes 


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@nigea99 wrote:

@MU422 wrote:

 

 Mini Box is to be connected to a Sony Model KDL26S3000.

 


hi @MU422 

 

As the TV HDMI inputs both allow 1080i & 1080p I am  confident it will work

 


A set from 2007 might only support HDCP 1.1 while from memory Q needs at least 1.2 over HDMI


Fiar point but I just  double checked my old KDL20S2030 with my mini (don't ask about my junk room!) which is only slightly younger  

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@TimmyBGood isn't the specification 1.4 for minis and 2.0 for main Q boxes that are UHD capable and 1.4 for the old 1TB non UHD boxes 

I dimly recall a Mini will go back to 1.2

 

1.4 was the last version in that family before the jump to 2.0 which is based on different encryption.

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Fiar point but I just  double checked my old KDL20S2030 (don;t ask about my junk room!) which is only slightly younger  

2008, I think, so built with 2007 component availability and standards in mind.

 

A 2007 television would be built with 2006 components and standards, and both HDCP 1.2 and 1.3 had a 2006 release.

 

It's just one of those potentially trickier years which bridges a standards transition.

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@nigea99 wrote:


Fiar point but I just  double checked my old KDL20S2030 (don;t ask about my junk room!) which is only slightly younger  

2008, I think, so built with 2007 component availability and standards in mind.

 

A 2007 television would be built with 2006 components and standards, and both HDCP 1.2 and 1.3 had a 2006 release.

 

It's just one of those potentially trickier years which bridges a standards transition.


Would you believe I actually found my Date of purchase in my records March 2007 (earlier than I thought!)

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@TimmyBGood wrote:

@Laing1 wrote:


@TimmyBGood isn't the specification 1.4 for minis and 2.0 for main Q boxes that are UHD capable and 1.4 for the old 1TB non UHD boxes 

I dimly recall a Mini will go back to 1.2

 

1.4 was the last version in that family before the jump to 2.0 which is based on different encryption.


@TimmyBGood i'm completely wrong found the link below although no mini in the link the 1TB non UHD is listed so assuming the mini would have the same output specifications the HDCP 1.2 for non UHD and HDCP 2.2 for UHD boxes 

 

I got mixed up with the HDMI cable specifications 1.4 and 2.0 respectively 

 

https://www.sky.com/help/articles/sky-q-box-specs


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Aye, HDMI cable and chip specs.

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