broadband speed in my area

[charliescotland]

why is it other companys can offer a cheeper and faster speed in my area yet Sky brodband can offer me more than 56 Mbps like Quickline are offering 400Mbps for £39per month  and 900Mbps for £49 per month 

[TimmyBGood]

@charliescotland 

Non-Openreach 'altnet' ISPs aren't currently charging realistic subscriptions: they are burning through startup capital and loan financing to expand their own private optical networks, typically in very limited geographical areas, and attract households with loss-making offers to build a user-base.  Many of them won't be viable in the long term and will end up merging or going under.

Sky and other similar established ISPs (such as BT/EE/Plusnet, TalkTalk, Vodafone etc) can only offer the speed which the local Openreach infrastructure will support, and have to pay BT Wholesale rental prices, but this means they have national coverage and aren't likely to disappear overnight.

[Anonymous]

Just spoken to some workmen pulling cable along our road. They are doing it for for a company called Quickline. So FTTP broadband will presumably soon be available to my address. 

Currently have fibre to the cabinet with SKY ( Ultrafast) which runs over the Openreach infrastructure. 

Will FTTP ever be available via Openreach? 

Will the FTTP providers share the physical fibre connection in the same way FTTC providers share the copper? 

I'm out of contract with SKY and wondering whether to endure the annual haggle to reduce my payments and tie myself in for 18/24 months or wait and see what FTTP offerings turn up. 

[cookiemonsteruk]

@Anonymous 

Could you enter your full address below and post the table and notes after removing your address from the image

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome

[Chrisee]

@Anonymous Openreach publish some information here https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker about furure plans just put in your post code. Sky have not given any public indication that they will offer services over any other network than Openreach but it is quite likely that at some point they may do but if they do it will likely be the major players like City Fibre or Virgin Media.

There are quite literally dozens of smaller Altnet providers and rarely a week goes by without a story of one going down or being bought up. I saw one offering a gigabit service at under £2.00 a month for the first 6 months recently - hardly likely to give a return on capital that will satisfy their backers. 

[TimmyBGood]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Will FTTP ever be available via Openreach? 

The Openreach target is to have all 'commercially viable' properties (roughly 80% of the total in the UK) within reach of their optical network by the end of 2026.  The remaining 20% would cost more to provision than all future ISP subscription income, and so require a different broadband delivery solution (probably cellular or satellite) or a funding mechanism through government grants.

Will the FTTP providers share the physical fibre connection in the same way FTTC providers share the copper? 

All Openreach client ISPs (BT/EE/Plusnet , Sky, Vodafone, TalkTalk etc) share the national Openreach optical network.  'Altnet' ISPs do not (which is where the 'alternative network' label comes from) nor do most Openreach ISPs also use altnet infrastructure: the current exception is Vodafone which has a partnership with CityFibre as well as carriage on Openreach.

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[iAshton]

 underneath is a line saying FTTP not available. 

FTTP on demand is available according to the table. 
not sure what the difference is. 

[cookiemonsteruk]

@iAshton 

Could you post your router statistics

https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Broadband/How-to-find-your-Sky-Broadband-router-stats/m-p/2855717#M1014...

You could be getting 80Mbps with a guarantee

Also if you post the details from the link provided by @Chrisee 

[TimmyBGood]

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@iAshton wrote:

FTTP on demand is available according to the table. 
not sure what the difference is. 

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FTTPoD is where the householder pays for what's essentially a bespoke optical connection ahead of the national rollout arriving in their area: given this can easily cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of pounds, it's typically not a realistic option.

[Anonymous]

My current conntract with SKY is Superfast Fibre Broadband ( not Ultrafast as I said above) and I get over 

65Mbps download which I'm happy with for my purposes.

FTTP to the premises would let us consider removing a distributed satellite system and the associated cabling sometime in the future. Up for an interesting discussion at our residents meeting.

The Openreach address checker said Ultrafast Full Fibre not yet available so I signed up to be kept updated.

So as I understand it Quickline and similar will mean their own new cables somehow reaching the premsies.

Virgin not an option as they didn't think cabling our road worth it.

Thanks for all your replies and suggestions.

[TimmyBGood]

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@Anonymous wrote:

So as I understand it Quickline and similar will mean their own new cables somehow reaching the premsies.

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That's correct: altnet ISPs use startup funding and venture capital to lay their own optical cabling (sometimes utilising Openreach ducts and poles) in limited geographical areas.

[iAshton]

BTW I inadvertently had two logins. So the Anonymous above is the one I deleted ( Ashy).